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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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Copy and paste of a good article about shorting for education purposes:
Last year was a frustrating one for many investors outside the ASX blue chips, so when news broke that South Korea was banning short selling, debate was reignited among the executives of some beaten-down companies as to whether Australia should do the same. That would be a bad idea.
In November, the South Korean regulators announced they would ban short selling, the practice whereby one profits from a falling share price, until June 2024. They claimed that “short selling makes it difficult to form fair prices” and is “highly likely to hurt individual investors”.
The film Dumb Money dramatised the GameStop short-selling squeeze. Comedian Pete Davidson (left) plays the dropkick brother of the GameStop craze instigator Keith Gill. Paul Dano is in the latter role.CREDIT:ROADSHOW FILMS
The following day, the South Korean market jumped 5.7 per cent – the largest single day gain in more than three years.
Our benchmark ASX index was only up 7.8 per cent in 2023 despite a greater than 24 per cent rise in US markets. The more speculative end of the market, where more retail investors play, was down still down on the year, with lithium and critical minerals stocks hit especially hard.
In December, Alex Dorsch, the CEO of Chalice Mining, came out in support of a Korean-style ban in Australia, arguing it was “in the national interest”. Coincidentally, Chalice’s shares are highly shorted, with the latest data from the Australian Securities and Investments Commission showing that 6.5 per cent of the company’s shares are held short.
It’s fair to say that Dorsch feels his Chalice has been poisoned by short sellers. He argues that pre-revenue companies (also known as loss-making companies) such as his, should be protected from “geopolitical opponents” who might try to stymie the development of Australian miners by shorting them out of business.
Shares in the critical mineral’s developer were down more than 73 per cent in 2023 and are already down another 30 per cent since the beginning of this year. The catalyst, a more than 25 per cent plunge in a single day in August 2023, when Chalice released a scoping study that contained rather optimistic assumptions for the future price of the palladium to be produced by a prospective mine.
In the same way bulls take long positions when they believe a company is undervalued, short sellers identify companies they believe to be overvalued.
If your company has been the target of short selling, or if you are an investor of a stock that has been underperforming because of short selling, the idea of banning it is tempting indeed. But short selling plays a vital role in price discovery, hedging and liquidity.
AdvertisementResearch has found that when hypothetical constraints on short selling are lifted, market crash risks are reduced and overvaluations more unlikely, as less bad news is hoarded by management. Short sellers have been instrumental in uncovering some of the largest market frauds, exposing wrongdoing by companies such as Eron.
Following Dorch’s calls, Peter Coleman, the chairman of Arcadium Lithium (formerly Allkem), defended short selling, telling The Australian Financial Review that “short selling makes a market transparent”, and that “is all very natural as business models are tested, and the stronger companies move forward”.
For an executive of a company in a sector such as lithium that has been the most targeted by short selling to come out in its defence speaks to the important role it plays in the functioning of a free market. In the same way bulls take long positions when they believe a company is undervalued, short sellers identify companies they believe to be overvalued.
Three of the top five most shorted stocks on the ASX are lithium companies, with shorters targeting them as proxies for the “white gold” commodity that slumped 85 per cent last year, not due to “market manipulation” but rather the simple economics of supply and demand. It was the most obvious trade of the year.
By betting against irrational hypes, such as the lithium frenzy, short selling prevents excessive valuations and acts as a counter to overly optimistic investors, holds management to account and encourages greater due diligence from investors.
As a “bag-holder” of Core Lithium, the third most shorted stock on the ASX (about 13.8 per cent of shares held short) and one which is down more 75 per cent year-to-date, you might expect me to be the first person to support a short selling ban. But part of growing as an investor is accepting that one made a bad decision against a prevailing trend, instead of blaming “predatory short sellers” or a market that “is out to get me”.
Former Enron chairman Kenneth Lay (centre) was convicted of conspiracy and securities and wire fraud in one of the biggest business scandals in US history. CREDIT:AP
It’s important for “long only” investors to check the short interest in stocks they have a bullish investment thesis on, what do they know that you don’t? It’s a question I should have considered more thoroughly.
And it’s not like shorting is easy money.
Shorters cannot hold stocks indefinitely like long-only investors – they pay additional interest fees, and are exposed to infinite losses should a “short squeeze” occur (remember GameStop). These additional risks mean short sellers do their due diligence and don’t take positions lightly.
It has been estimated that US short sellers made US$300 billion ($457 billion) betting against the market in 2022, but following the Fed pivot that fuelled a monster eight week rally to the end the year, short sellers have been left about US$195 billion in the red.
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The real problem with shorting is that it’s not readily accessible to most retail investors, further perpetuating that idea that it is one set of rules for us, and another for the hedge funds.
While it is possible to take bearish positions against the Australian market through short ETFs (exchange-traded funds), the option to short individual stocks isn’t offered by most brokers. Instead of banning short selling, greater access to shorting for retail would level the playing field. As with free speech, just because you may disagree with it, the solution isn’t a ban, but rather increased speech.
In a free market, anyone should be able to express positive and negative views on stock prices and profit from doing so. Banning short selling would remove a critical source of information for price discovery and make our market less transparent.
That’s the long and short of it.
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