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04/03/24
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Originally posted by dirtygecko:
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You didn't refute anything tangs. You simply expressed your subjective opinion. Opinion that's rooted in your russophobia. Jan Stoltenberg clearly stated, that Russia invaded Ukraine over fears of NATO expansion. Go refute Jan Stoltenberg. "...they don't want that again..." Nah. It's the collective West that wants to pull Ukraine out of Russia's sphere of interest and pull it into theirs, that's all. It's pretty obvious to anyone that keeps an eye on how US tries to spread and expand it's influence all over the world. "...Ukraine are fighting from a point of weakness..." Who are you trying to deceive here? AFU has been trained by NATO for about a decade now. Hundreds of billions of dollars spent on NATO-fying the Ukrainian army. A whole bunch of CIA bases working overtime to train Ukrainian commandos and gather intel, including intel provided by a bunch of NATO military satellites, spy drones and spy planes circling all over Ukraine. "...but fighting very effectively still and holding russia back .." LOL. Deep State Maps says you're wrong. And that's a pro-Ukrainian source too. Ukrainians are losing lives and territories daily. Russia is fighting for it's national and security intersts. What's Ukraine fighting for? NATO's expansionism ambitions.
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....you said the war was a result of anti russ policies in Europe ......I pointed out there were none .....Nordstreeam 1 and 2 and plenty of engaement with rusisa witout prejudice .....was such an obvious lie by you THERE is the refuting of your lie ! point of weakness - you tell me what the Ukrainians have more than russia .....is it ships , planes , missiles , artillery, tanks , troops ......????? is telling obvious lies all you are good for ??