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John 17:3

The relationship between the Father and the Son within the Trinity is of the Son's procession from the Father. This concept is supported by various biblical passages that emphasize the unique roles and relationships among the persons of the Trinity.

One key verse that highlights the Son's relationship with the Father is John 8:42, where Jesus says, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came from God; nor have I come of myself, but He sent me." In this verse, Jesus indicates that His origin and mission are derived from the Father, emphasizing His submission to the Father's will and authority.

Another important passage that speaks to the Son's subservience to the Father is found in 1 Corinthians 11:3, which states, "But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God." This verse illustrates the hierarchical relationship within the Trinity, with God the Father being the ultimate authority over Christ the Son.

Furthermore, Philippians 2:5-8 demonstrates the Son's willingness to submit to the Father's will, stating, "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross." This passage shows Jesus's humble obedience to the Father, even unto death on the cross, as part of His redemptive work.

Overall, these biblical passages demonstrate the Son's procession from the Father, His willing submission to the Father's will, and His distinct yet unified role within the Trinity, highlighting the perfect harmony and unity within the Godhead.

In John 17:3, Jesus is praying to the Father and says, "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." This verse highlights the intimate connection between the Father, the Son, and eternal life.

Firstly, Jesus refers to the Father as "the only true God," emphasizing the monotheistic nature of the Godhead and reinforcing the Father's supreme authority and divinity. Jesus acknowledges the Father as the ultimate source of all existence and the one whom believers must know to experience eternal life.

Secondly, Jesus identifies Himself as the one whom the Father has sent, establishing His unique role as the Son who was sent by the Father for the redemption of humanity. By connecting knowledge of both the Father and Himself with eternal life, Jesus emphasizes the essential relationship between the Father and the Son in the salvation of believers.

The connection between the Father, the Son, and eternal life in this verse highlights the relational aspect of salvation within the Trinity. Eternal life is not just about living forever, but it is intimately tied to knowing and having a personal relationship with both the Father and Jesus Christ. Through this relationship, believers are granted the gift of eternal life, which is ultimately rooted in the unity of God

The Father is the source of salvation (John 3:16), the Son is the means of salvation through his death and resurrection (Romans 6:4), and the Holy Spirit is the agent who brings about regeneration and transformation in the life of the believer (Titus 3:5-7). with each person having unique roles in the work of salvation and in the divine economy.

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The relationship between the Father and the Son ~~within the Trinity~~ is of the Son's procession from the Father. This concept is supported by various biblical passages that emphasize the unique roles and relationships among the persons of the ~~Trinity.~~Father and Son -> 2nd Adam MAN.

One key verse that highlights the Son's relationship with the Father is John 8:42, where Jesus says, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded forth = out of the mouth of God and came from God after Baptism; nor have I come of myself, but He sent me after Baptism." In this verse, Jesus indicates that His origin and mission are derived from the Father, emphasizing His submission to the Father's will and authority.

Another important passage that speaks to the Son's subservience to the Father is found in 1 Corinthians 11:3, which states, "But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God." This verse illustrates the hierarchical relationship ~~within the Trinity,~~ with God the Father being the ultimate authority over Christ the Son.

Furthermore, Philippians 2:5-8 demonstrates the Son's willingness to submit to the Father's will, stating, "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, Jesus himself Never made this claim, he said the Father is greater but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men as he is the 2nd Adam, all that he has ever been. And being found in appearance as a man as he is the 2nd Adam man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross." This passage shows Jesus's humble obedience to the Father, even unto death on the cross, as part of His redemptive work.

Form, appearance of God, God dwelt in him, God did all the miracles through him, God gave him all power and authority, God gave and taught Jesus the word, to which he then had without measure, so when he expressed them out, he Became the express image of God's PERSON = WORD, The Word.

Overall, these biblical passages demonstrate the Son's procession from the Father, His willing submission to the Father's will, and His distinct yet unified role ~~within the Trinity,~~ highlighting the perfect harmony and unity of the Son ~~within~~ with the Godhead. = the God and Father, as the scriptures clearly show.

In John 17:3, Jesus is praying to the Father and says, "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." This verse highlights the intimate connection between the Father, the Son, and eternal life.
It also unquestionably highlights, that Jesus INDEPENDENTLY of himself, defines the Father as the ONLY TRUE God, when he was here.
Hence after the cross, we see Jesus exalted and glorified and referred to as an BEGOTTEN God now John 1:18 = he was not a God prior, hence HIS words in 17:3.
It also highlights, that Jesus did NOT say eternal life also hinges on knowing some separate created being, the Holy Spirit, BECAUSE the Holy Spirit is the Only True God and Father.
Unless you chose to claim that Jesus has two Fathers, hmmmmm, Because the Bible would demand this, if you create another being out of the Holy Spirit.

Firstly, Jesus refers to the Father as "the only true God," emphasizing the monotheistic nature of the Godhead = Father alone and reinforcing the Father's supreme authority and divinity. Jesus acknowledges the Father as the ultimate source of all existence and the one whom believers must know to experience eternal life.

Secondly, Jesus identifies Himself as the one whom the Father has sent after his baptism, establishing His unique role as the Son who was sent by the Father for the redemption of humanity. By connecting knowledge of both the Father and Himself with eternal life, Jesus emphasizes the essential relationship between the Father and the Son in the salvation of believers. Again, zero mention of a separate created being, the Holy Spirit.

The connection between the Father, the Son, and eternal life in this verse highlights the relational aspect of salvation within the ~~Trinity.~~ Father and Son Eternal life is not just about living forever but it is intimately tied to knowing and having a personal relationship with both the Father and Jesus Christ. Through this relationship, believers are granted the gift of eternal life, which is ultimately rooted in the unity of God
You have to know the truth FIRST of who and what God and Jesus are, BEFORE a personal relationship can be had.
Otherwise, your relationship is with the figment of your imaginations.

The Father is the source of salvation (John 3:16), the Son is the means of salvation through his death and resurrection (Romans 6:4), and the Holy Spirit is the Father, Spirit of truth, that glorified Jesus the agent who brings about regeneration and transformation in the life of the believer (Titus 3:5-7). with each person having unique roles in the work of salvation and in the divine economy.