@EyeoftheTiger - I have no idea what people are talking about here; they seem to be bent on talking themselves into all sorts of crazyness
but nothing is new under the sun -
vaccine-resistance has been happening since time immemorial -
I recently dug up a poem - unfortunatey in German - directed at the antivaccers who refused immunisation against diphteria, which was then a dangerous childhood illness (I had scarlet fever as a small child and I still remember it - later rheumatic fever - a school mate was crippled with polio, vaccine became available in 1952, I remember being given the vaccine to me orally at school)
This is a satirical poem from the year 1928 -
when the immunisation campaigns for diphteria fell on some 'deaf' ears and the general public was upset with them - supposedly the satirist Kurt Tucholsky wrote this
"Geimpfte sind nicht bessre Leute. The Vaccinated are not better people
nur weil sie solidarisch sind. just because they act in solidarity;
Sie schützen sich und andre heute, no, they protect themselves and others today
so leben morgen Greis und Kind. so that the Aged and the Child can live tomorrow.
Die Ungeimpften sind nicht schlechter, The anti-vaccers are not worse people
nur weil sie Ignoranten sind. Just because they are ignorant'
Sie sind Immunsystemverfechter, They go into major battle for the immune system
für gute Argumente blind but are blind to good arguments
und meistenteils verrückt geworden. .... and mostly they have gone to pot
Sie fallen allen nur zur Last. and get on everybody's nerves
Und doch: Man soll sie nicht ermorden! And yet, one should not kill them
Fürs erste reicht ja auch der Knast." to start with, it's enough to lock them up. (Kurt Tucholsky 1928)
The controversy then was
pro and contra the diphtheria vaccination - and the arguments were raging from about 1923 - the poem was written in 1928 - this particular vaccination is now part of a triple- childhood-disease vaccination given to babies and toddlers.
History of vaccination - and most people who have read a bit of history will know about once beautiful women who were disfigured after catching smallpox - a very common diseases - Elizabeth I, wore have layers of a poisonous (lead) powder over her face to hide her disfigurement - her lady-in-waiting, who looked after the then 28-year old Queen, suffered a worse disfigurement
18th century
1796 – Edward Jenner develops and documents first vaccine for smallpox.[2]
19th century
1880 – First vaccine for cholera by Louis Pasteur[3][4]
1885 – First vaccine for rabies by Louis Pasteur and Émile Roux[5][6]
1890 – First vaccine for tetanus (serum antitoxin) by Emil von Behring[7]
1896 – First vaccine for typhoid fever by Almroth Edward Wright, Richard Pfeiffer, and Wilhelm Kolle[8]
1897 – First vaccine for bubonic plague by Waldemar Haffkine
20th century
1921 – First vaccine for tuberculosis by Albert Calmette[9][10]
1923 – First vaccine for diphtheria by Gaston Ramon, Emil von Behring and Kitasato Shibasaburō
1924 – First vaccine for scarlet fever by George F. Dick and Gladys Dick
1924 – First inactive vaccine for tetanus (tetanus toxoid, TT) by Gaston Ramon, C. Zoeller and P. Descombey
1926 – First vaccine for pertussis (whooping cough) by Leila Denmark
1932 – First vaccine for yellow fever by Max Theiler and Jean Laigret
1937 – First vaccine for typhus by Rudolf Weigl, Ludwik Fleck and Hans Zinsser
1937 – First vaccine for influenza by Anatol Smorodintsev[11]
1940 – First vaccine for anthrax1941 – First vaccine for tick-borne encephalitis
1952 – First vaccine for polio (Salk vaccine)
1954 – First vaccine for Japanese encephalitis
1957 – First vaccine for adenovirus-4 and 7
1962 – First oral polio vaccine (Sabin vaccine)
1963 – First vaccine for measles
1967 – First vaccine for mumps1970 – First vaccine for rubella
1977 – First vaccine for pneumonia (Streptococcus pneumoniae)
1978 – First vaccine for meningitis (Neisseria meningitidis)
1980 – Smallpox declared eradicated worldwide due to vaccination efforts1981 –
First vaccine for hepatitis B (first vaccine to target a cause of cancer)
1984 – First vaccine for chicken pox
1985 – First vaccine for Haemophilus influenzae type b (HiB)
1989 – First vaccine for Q fever[12]
1990 – First vaccine for hantavirus hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome
1991 – First vaccine for hepatitis A[13]
1998 – First vaccine for Lyme disease
1998 – First vaccine for rotavirus[14]
21st century
2000 – First pneumococcal conjugate vaccine approved in the U.S. (PCV7 or Prevnar)[15]
2003 – First nasal influenza vaccine approved in U.S. (FluMist)
2003 – First vaccine for Argentine hemorrhagic fever.[16]
2006 – First vaccine for human papillomavirus (which is a cause of cervical cancer)
2006 – First herpes zoster vaccine for shingles
2011 – First vaccine for non-small-cell lung carcinoma (comprises 85% of lung cancer cases)
2012 – First vaccine for hepatitis E[17]
2012 – First quadrivalent (4-strain) influenza vaccine
2013 – First vaccine for enterovirus 71, one cause of hand, foot, and mouth disease[18]
2015 – First vaccine for malaria[19]
2015 – First vaccine for dengue fever[20]
2019 – First vaccine for Ebola approved[21]
2020 – First vaccine for COVID-19
2023 – First respiratory syncytial virus vaccine
2023 - First vaccine for Chikungunya
NOW, if you had to have all of those vaccines, I bet no human body could withstand such an onslought, but we do it in increments.
I fought the battle of childhood vaccines with my daughters, when they had children - somehow, they got infect with 'anti-vaccers' ideas, because they were alternative etc. - I worried about one particular grandchild for years, but she works at a hospital now, and has had herself vaccinated.
Her Mum, too has seen the sense in doing the Covid - protective injections - they do not fully protect you, but if you catch Covid, you get off lighter.
I have only recently had a yearly flu injection but had to return from Europe first with a long-lasting cold and cough, which was so bad, I had to book myself a wheel-chair for transport between airports etc, when returning - and then I realised it makes sense to have the yearly flu injection.
That's it, I will hold my peace now.
Take care all, and think about it
Taurisk