Sunburnt I didnt mind the RIU preso either.
http://ircast.com.au/conferences/online/mrr10/presentations/1103/player.html
Here's one of Les' quotes to go with your "Many geo's never see visible gold" quote.
It's when he is refering to Magic.
"I had to delete the spreadsheet because I was getting too excited"
Maybe I need to send Les the link to redtube?