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Originally posted by NoImSpartacus:
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Well Thirdgo your reasoning isselective and faulty. If Putin was bent on conquest he wouldn't have waited 24years (from 2008 to 2022) to invade Ukraine. That's right 24 years he waspleading to NATO not to continue the encirclement of Russia and admit Ukraine andGeorgia into NATO. If Putin was bent on conquest he wouldn't have enteredinto 2 Minsk agreements which if the West had honoured there would not be a warin Ukraine today (Indeed Merkel and Holland both admitted they only enteredthose agreements to buy NATO time to get Ukraine ready for the fight they knewthey were provoking). Putin knew there was a risk that NATO and Ukraine wouldnot honour the agreements but he took the chance hoping against hope that theywould and war could be averted. Does it sound like someone who is bent onconquest? Of course not! That's just the propaganda lie the USA/NATO areputting out there because they cant stand losing the Ukraine war to Russia andthey're scared their people have had enough. So whats the strategy the USA/NATOhas always used to keep their people supporting the forever wars. Tell themthere's a lunatic out there committing unspeakable autocracies whos bent onsubjugating the whole world. Qaddafi we're told was a madman; SlobodanMilošević was a madmad; Hussain was a madman, Castro was a madman, Chavez was amadman. Putin is a madman. Everybody who doesn't do what they're told by theUSA/NATO are Madmen. Join the dots Thirdgo! And now lets finish the story. About 3 weeksbefore the Ukraine invasion Putin wrote a long letter repeating Russia'ssecurity concerns and requesting the USA/NATO to go back to the Minks agreementand agree not to admit Ukraine into NATO. And about a week before the invasionhe wrote again and Blinken's reply is legendary. "There is no change andthere will be no change". No the monsters here, the land grabbers here areUSA/NATO. They thought after they conducted the coup in Ukraine they wouldfinally get Russia out of Crimea, ,take the Russian Port of Sevastopol and turnthe Black Sea into a NATO lake. If you are genuine Thirdgo you will answer (ifonly to yourself for no one else to hear), would America have accepted thesituation it had forced on Russia by 2014; What would America do if Russiaspent $5Bill to orchestrate an insurgency in Hawaii by native Hawaiians whohave been clamoring for their independence and then would America allow the newIndependent Hawaiian government to hand over Pearl Harbour to Russia. NO! The warmongers here, the Land Grabbers hereare USA/NATO and the sooner you recognize that its these hypocritical doublestandard that are taking us to WW3 the better chance we have of averting it.
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Gee you sure love your Trumpian grand statements like your claim that a million people (reality being 2-5,000 max) marched on the Capital Building.
