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Originally posted by Justis: ↑

'You lot always bring up the edge of the debate like "rape and incest" and I've answered that many time
I personally think that in our world, that should be allowed and to each... let them deal with their own conscience'

Great we have an answer on that, being you don't object to abortion if the woman became pregnant from Rape or Incest.

Now how do you justify states that have used over turning roe vs wade to ban abortions without those exception?

"As I asked originally and you didn't answer....unless the baby's delivery endangers the woman's physical life...why not deliver and adopt out....why KILL the baby instead?"

I look at the data below and see that 96% of abortions are before 15 weeks, dare say the majority are in the early weeks and don as a medical abortion, I have no concerns with that

Then we have just 3% of abortions between 16 and 20 weeks, that is a small number which suggest women don't make the decision to have an abortion lightly. I respect a women choice to have an abortion at that point

I am not comfortable with the idea of a woman getting an abortion from about 20 week if the woman's life is not at risk, but the reality is that only 1% of abortions are after 21 weeks. We don't know what proportion of those abortions are due to the woman's life being at risk, I would say it would be the majority

"The updated analysis considers 2021 CDC data, before the Dobbs decision, in a post-Dobbs policy landscape. The analysis shows that abortions at or after 21 weeks are uncommon and represent 1% of all abortions in the U.S. Ninety-six percent occurred at or before 15 weeks gestation, while 3% occurred from 16 to 20 weeks gestation."

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/press-release/what-the-data-show-abortions-later-in-pregnancy/So you see I find that over tuning roe vs wade and allowing states to put in bans on abortions including with no exception completely wrong and do some 64% of people in the USA.

You don't think this will be an election issue?

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One wonders why they use the 15 week juncture...wonder what the data says if the 12 week juncture is used.

That aside, the 1% is greatly disputed due to the inconsistent and unreliable reporting occurring over a country of close to 350 million folks...but lets say 1% is right.

How many abortions a year?
More than a million abortions were provided in the U.S. in 2023. That's a major finding from a report published Tuesday by the Guttmacher Institute, a research organization that supports access to abortion.

To be precise, researchers estimate there were 1,026,700 abortions in 2023. "That's the highest number in over a decade, [and] the first time there have been over a million abortions provided in the U.S. formal health care system since 2012," explains Isaac Maddow-Zimet, a data scientist with Guttmacher.

So of that #...1% = at a minimum...over 10,000 babies.
A year.
Every year.

So again...out of those 10,000+ babies...unless the delivery physically kills the mom...why kill the baby and not deliver instead and adopt out?

Of course its an election issue. Fact is the vast vast majority of women can indeed get an abortion whenever they please. Is some places is somewhat restricted and in some places difficult. but they can travel if they're minded to

But to the VAST majority of folks... come NOV...its not the reason they're gonna vote as they will