1. I'm talking about Ukraines right as a country to it's own borders .
2. Ukrainians in occupied territories is the same rights as russians have -- FAR LESS THAN UKRAINIANS HAVE !!
3. a defeated Ukraine would have theri riughts and interests subjugated to russian interest - by force or threat of it ....as in Belarus already .
there is no basis of justification for any russians being in Ukraine , attacking their country nor stealing their land .
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