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Originally posted by tangs:
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1. Ukraine was not going to join NATO before ....impossible under charter and Germany and France opposed it .....you yurself once exlained all these things .....but you like to argue both sides of the fence .defend ......in the context of the comparative sizes of the 2 countries ----that objective is being acheived .....82% of Ukraine still free from russia after all this time , rusian resources diminished , the russian demand for demilitarisation of Ukraine and for there to be no western alliances .....not agreed to .
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You need to correct the wikipedia entry; yes Germany and France thought it was a bad idea in 2008 because they stupidly thought it could lead to war with russia in Ukraine but it was pushed in a bipartisan way by Bush, Obama and McCain.https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-parliament-coalition-agreement/26703123.html https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-ends-nonaligned-status-earning-quick-rebuke-from-russia-1419339226
