EVs, before you buy one you need to think ....

Originally posted by madamswer: ↑

"I was basing off my fuel usage - I was easily spending $100+ a week on fuel, which is where the $6000 a year came from. And as @Andrewst10 pointed out - petrol is only going to become more expensive - do you think it will be closer to $2/l or $4/l in 5 years time?"

"And as @Andrewst10 pointed out - petrol is only going to become more expensive - do you think it will be closer to $2/l or $4/l in 5 years time?""

On what basis can someone forecast what the price of a globally fungible economic good will be just one month into the future, let alone five years out?

"I note that from your abs link, the bit you cut off the image says that: the average rate of fuel consumption per passenger vehicle was 11.1 litres per 100 kilometres.
Which is a real world figure and about 50% higher than the salesperson provided figure of 7.5l/100km you used."

As I said in my previous, that ABS vehicle data doesn't make the distinction between types of passenger vehicles.

Clearly, large SUVs and working vehicles such as tradesman's utes consume far more fuel on each travelled km than the EV-equivalent passenger vehicles. But the choice here isn't an EV replacing an SUV or the ute used by an electrician or plumber; it substituting an EV for a similar sized sedan.

So the relevant comparative figure is clearly nowhere near 11.5l/100km. (But, hey, even if one uses that irrelevant 11.5l/100k figure, one still gets 27,000 km travelled, still 2.7 times higher than the level implied by you.)

"$2/l is cheap around here, and I don't recall the last time I saw it that low."

Really?
Hard to find anywhere where it is as high as $2.00/l:

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$6000 a year isn't crazy on fuel, and for me represents about 25,000km a year, not 40,000km."

You must have been driving a very fuel-inefficient car. Because that represents 12 l/100km @$2.00/l

If it was made known at the outset that this was only your personal experience, it wouldn't have been required to properly contextualise it against more representative averages.

"Since you seem to want to bring some facts into the conversation, the curb weight of your 2011 Rav4 is between 1500-1600kg depending on the configuration you have. A similarly sized BYD atto3 SUV weighs 1750kg - so around 10-15% heavier. Do you really think this will have a large effect on tyre wear?"

If you want to invoke facts, then it really needs to be done properly.
It is not just the weight difference that influences wear rates as the tractive force in acceleration and deceleration.
As we know, EVs have far more rapid acceleration than conventional cars: why, it is one of their selling features.
The wear rate differential is meaningfully higher than 10%.

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Capital city tunnel vision eh?

Regardless - I never put E10 or U91 in my previous car - they don't meet the standards for the engine - P95 minimum. I generally use P98.

P98 is currently around $2.40 even in the cities, and you will have to be an individual of lower than average weight and use that price to get even close to manufacturer quoted fuel efficiencies.

The only claims I made were about my personal fuel consumption and the value of an EV to me - see my first comment in this thread. And you are still using abs averages to try to make an argument, although I note that know you've gone from using the abs average of 12,000km/year to your own much lower invented value of 10,000km/year to try to support your rapidly failing point.

I honestly can't believe you have the arrogance to tell me how far I drive each day and how much I used to pay petrol.

Just because EVs have far more rapid acceleration, doesn't mean you have to drive them that way. It's only there if you need it. And I doubt people are braking faster in EVs than in ICEs. EV tyres also tend to have low rolling resistance.
You are going to have to come up with a different theory on EV tyre wear, because your current theory basing it on differing driving styles is just silly.