propaganda is what you do .....you tell lies and misrepresent
the fact is it IS simple ....russian expansionism at Ukraines expense - it isn't something you can have an opinion on one way or another because it is simply happening
just that you seek ways to justify that ....by lies like you posted last night , the US was allowing Ukraine into NATO in 2008 ......at the time of the russian aggression in 2014 still wasn't in NATO .....still isn't today - you invent these ridiculous narratives to excuse russian aggression
Ukraine was not invaded for being in NATO but because it ws not allowed into NATO
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