is it when they decided to fight for the side that tried to commit a bunch of genocides, among other atrocities?
they actually fought on hitler's side too. and got their bum-bum's kicked in hard. ended up losing even more territories than they did after the winter war (that the soviets allegedly lost, lol).
i know that the idea of peace is revolting to you, tangy pants. after all, most of the posts on this forum are filled with warmongering an joyfull attitudes over mass death.
but unlike you, smart, educated people realize that the longer this war continues, the more lives and territories ukrainians will lose. ukrainians are unable to push the russians back, despite all the game changers and all the hundreds of billions of dollars of us/eu taxpayers money. from ukraine's pov, its pointless to continue, when the result of all the efforts is going to be the same ie loss of lives and territories.
