The gems of Revelation 21, page-741

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    @zbusc

    "He preexisted with the Father (verse 1),

    Rubbish, the logos/plan existed with the God = Father.
    Pay attention to your own link ->
    “mind,” “reason,” or “wisdom.”
    1:2 This (logos/plan) was in beginning to, toward = (ongoing, in progress) with the God and expressed out of the Father, alone and by himself Isa 44:24, Psa 33:6,9.

    "This" is the ONLY definition, singular for the Greek word and NO WAY is this, as with John 1:1b, saying or showing another person or being, being with the God.

    While your logos/plan is in you, it is you = And God was the Word.
    Logos does NOT just mean expressed words.
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    "He was involved in the creation of everything (verse 3),"

    As in any hands on role so to speak -> that is of the Father of LIES.
    Isa 44:24 -Thus says Yehowah, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: “I Yehowah who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself;

    Psa 33:6, 9 - By the word of Yehowah the heavens were made, And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.
    For
    He spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood firm.

    Jesus - Yehowshuwa is NOT Yehowah as your lying link is suggesting.

    The Father alone by himself created through, on account of, by reason of, because of, for the sake of the future one to be.
    Just as it is clearly shown in the Inter, the likes of Col 1:16.
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    "and He is the "light of all mankind" (verse 4)."

    OH my, is your mind messing with you here or what = 2 Thes 2:11 in play for sure.

    1:4 - In Him (Father) (it = word) life was = this is his inner logos = spirit and life that he gave to the son to have life in himself John 5:26 -> and that life is the light of men = now we are talking about the expressed word of God = Psa 119:105.

    1:9 That is the true light (word/father) that enlightens every man coming into the world -> including Adam, so it wasn't just about to come.
    God is Light, Father of it and his word of light 1 John 1:5, James 1:17, Psa 119:105.

    Fill up on the word of God and it's full meaning and;
    Matt 5:14 - You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.

    Jesus was raised in the word of God Deu 18:18 -> John 12:46 - I am come
    a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
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    "Yes, correct, Jesus is the literal FLESH Son of the Holy Spirit & Mary.
    The WORD became flesh :-"

    Literal flesh Son of God, his all time and only existence.


    The word that become flesh, was the words from the Father, to the Angel to Mary = Luke.
    Isa 55:10, 11 - For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
    So shall my word be that goeth
    forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

    Jesus at least 3 times in John says he came forth from the Father, and then sent into the world = after his Baptism.

    John 1:14 Does NOT say -> And the Word became flesh, this verse in not talking about his conception or birth, that is in Luke.
    1:14 And the Word Man (existing - Luke) became = (on the scene) and dwelt and we beheld the glory of him, glory as only begotten by the sided of the Father, full of grace and truth.

    Mess with word order = you mess with the truth of the message.

    It was the glory begotten here and NOT the Son in this verse.
    John 17:22 - And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
    The glory here and 1:14 is the word of God.

    Gens -> be fruitful and multiply = the word -> and zbusc became flesh.
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    Use a little logic -> WHAT word become flesh???????
    OK then, how did Gens creation come into being???? rolleyes.png
 
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