Russia Ukraine war

Originally posted by eddiebop: ↑

Nothing will happen until the people of Germany elect leadership that's actually interested in Germany, and not being a slave to US interests. Which is exactly what's destroying their industry and economy by extension.

It's already known that if Ukraine was not the one to make the decision to blow up the pipelines, they most certainly executed this, with the full approval of Zaluzhny, and Zelensky knowing full well about this.

I keep bringing this up. I"m not sure whether you've come across this or not.

Yanukovich signed a 10bn dollar deal with Royal Dutch Shell (about a year before he was overthrown). The deal was to develop a massive shale gas field which is located round-about where the current front line happens to be.

This deal was THE largest deal that any of the ex-Soviet states has ever signed. And this would have resulted in:

1. Obvious economical benefits for Ukraine
2. Diversification of European gas supplies (less dependence on Russian gas).

Now why would anyone call Yanukovich as a pro-Russian shill?
The coup ultimately resulted in the stalling of that deal. And instead of earning money, Ukrainian government is now flying around the world shaking it's tin-cup, like a beggar.

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"It's already known that if Ukraine was not the one to make the decision to blow up the pipelines, they most certainly executed this, with the full approval of Zaluzhny, and Zelensky knowing full well about this."

No eddieboy, no it is not already known, not at least by you anyway.

Facts say this statement is not true

Firstly, your opinion as to who sabotaged NS1 and NS2 is just that, your opinions, you have no proof or evidence (though that has nver stopped your baseless claims in the past), but that is beside the point.

Secondly, and this is the part where your statement is simply untrue, it was Putin's decision to shut down NS1 in a deliberate attempt to hurt the EU economy that caused temporary price spikes, not the sabotaging of the pipelines that occurred almost a month AFTER Putin turned off NS1 (NS2 never went into service).

Leave the lies out of the conversation eddieboy.

Putin shuts off NS1 Sep 1st 2022:

Nord Stream 1: Russia shuts major gas pipeline to Europe (bbc.com)

NS1 and NS2 sabotaged Sep 26 2022:

Nord Stream pipelines sabotage - Wikipedia

Yanukovych is a Putin puppet for many reasons, one being because he took a bribe from Putin to abandon the EU association agreement.

Another one of your fantasy narratives demolished.