Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
The Drudge report times out.
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Looking for stoploss on line.
AOTonline? Challenger.com? Any others? AOT seems reasonable, $33 trade, $49.95/month, free if more than 8 trades/month. If database isn't accessed then $0/month. Seems reasonable, any opinions?- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
PEN is very tradable, but not out of the woods by a long way imo.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Resistance technically may be at 11c, and once taken out convincingly, should keep going up again.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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Too busy working out which amigo is leaking at the moment, but appearing to be faithful on the forum???
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
Looks good for next week. Be prepared!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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TO Lithium Hodlers.
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING AND ABOUT TO HAPPEN IN THE LITHIUM SPACE.
..1. Excess supply will easily last another 3 years, can you wait that long?
..2. I'm positive that we will have a dire/serious market correction long before lithium winter ends
..3. When lithium about to emerge from its winter, we may well have a version of sodium-ion battery that is readily in contention with LFP batteries, marginalising lithium's role in the EV battery space
..Its because you chose to remain luddite in denial about the changing fortunes of lithium.
..EV can continue to prosper handsomely without lithium being indispensable and certainly without higher lithium pricing
There are some great #lithium projects out there, but ….
https://x.com/JrMiningGuy/status/1866455683115393277
Standard Lithium's Arkansas pilot plant begins operations In partnership with Koch Technology Solutions, the company is now operating the plant at its South West Arkansas project, which it owns in collaboration with Norway’s state-owned petroleum company Equinor (NYSE: EQNR)..
https://x.com/minenergybiz/status/1870043440697811218
The Unlikely Ingredient That Could End U.S. Dependence on Chinese Batteries
Batteries that use sodium instead of lithium could allow the U.S. and its allies to create a completely new supply chain for the energy storage taking off across the world
By
Christopher Mims
Dec. 20, 2024 9:00 pm ET
Illustration: John Hinderliter
The U.S. and China are in a high-stakes race, with the energy security of America and its allies hanging in the balance. It involves batteries made from the same sodium found in table salt.
In both countries, researchers and companies are working furiously to make batteries that rely on a very different starting material than the lithium-ion batteries currently powering everything from our cellphones to our power grids. Such a battery could break China’s near monopoly on crucial battery-making elements at a time when trade tensions and America’s electric storage needs are on a collision course.
Instead of lithium, this nascent battery tech uses a sodium compound called soda ash, which can be produced using table salt. Unlike lithium, sodium is easily accessible everywhere. Even better for the U.S. is that China must synthesize soda ash from salt, while it is cheap and plentiful here. In fact, with 92% of the world’s reserves, you might even say that the U.S. is the Saudi Arabia of the stuff.
Researchers and entrepreneurs have twice failed in their attempts to turn the U.S. into a battery-making powerhouse. They are more optimistic this time, partly because they’ve teamed up with a bipartisan group of policymakers that is armed with incentives enacted by the current administration, and expected tariffs in the coming one.
Securing the gargantuan quantities of batteries the U.S. will need in the future is critical, given the transition to electrified transportation, as well as the essential role that battery storage has and will play in the reliability of our electrical grid. Experts who have worked on previous revolutions in energy storage say this latest technology gives the U.S. a third crack at the problem—and that we might not get another.
A consortium of six national laboratories and eight universities just received a $50 million grant from the Energy Department to advance this technology.
Sodium-ion batteries have a number of advantages over lithium-ion battery tech, including being tougher and potentially safer. They also have one big disadvantage, thanks to unavoidable realities of the periodic table—they are bulkier and heavier.
Proponents of this new kind of battery say their size and weight disadvantages hardly matter in many applications, such as large, stationary batteries for capturing energy when the sun shines and the wind blows, and feeding it back to the power grid when they don’t. And researchers say that eventually, they may be able to produce sodium-ion batteries which would be small and light enough to be used in electric vehicles.
This could lead to safer and cheaper EV batteries that also work across a wider range of temperatures—including the cold weather which can be a drag on EV range in conventional lithium-ion-powered vehicles.
Battery ingredients are mixed with a mortar and pestle at Argonne National Laboratory. Photo: Wes Agresta/Argonne National Laboratory
The U.S. should give priority to the development of sodium-ion batteries on account of national security, says Venkat Srinivasan, director of research in energy storage at Argonne National Laboratory and head of the recently-announced consortium. The supply chains for lithium-ion batteries nearly all flow through China, which is by far the dominant refiner of critical minerals and also the dominant manufacturer of finished cells.
This is no idle threat. China has repeatedly restricted exports of minerals critical for other components of electric cars and renewable energy infrastructure, most recently with a ban on exports of rare-earth elements. It has also reviewed controls on exports of graphite, essential for making lithium-ion batteries.
As people everywhere become increasingly dependent on batteries, there is a hazard that China gains a level of power over other countries that would make the OPEC of the early 1970s green with envy. Twice before—with the initial breakthroughs that led to lithium-ion batteries, and again with the recent refinement of that chemistry into more affordable batteries which are fast becoming dominant in EVs the world over—the U.S. has completely ceded the field to China.
If the U.S. can move quickly enough it can build up a battery-based energy independence from China, says Landon Mossburg, chief executive of Denver-based Peak Energy. His company is attempting to bring sodium-ion batteries to grid energy storage in the U.S., and already has contracts to build a handful of small pilot installations for utility companies and independent power providers in 2025.
The U.S. has vast reserves of naturally occurring sodium carbonate, also known as soda ash, the primary component of sodium-ion batteries. While soda ash can be synthesized, it’s cheaper to simply mine it, says Srinivasan. About half of the soda ash the U.S. digs up every year is used in the production of glass—everything from the windows in your home to beer bottles.
China is the only country producing early commercial versions of sodium-ion batteries at scale. As a result, Mossburg’s company is purchasing its battery cells from a Chinese partner he declined to name—while also attempting to learn all it can about their manufacture. It’s a process analogous to the decades of forced technology transfer U.S. firms have had to sign up for whenever they want to build manufacturing plants in China, only this time it’s China that’s ahead technologically, and the U.S. that is learning.
Peak Energy battery cell testing in Broomfield, Colo. Photo: Peak Energy
At a Peak Energy facility in the Bay Area, dozens of engineers are working out how to turn the battery cells from China into assemblages the size of large shipping containers so they can replace the arrays of lithium-ion batteries used by utilities. Eventually, the goal of the company is to open a factory to produce sodium-ion batteries here in the U.S., but that will take years, says Mossburg.
Meanwhile, researchers at the consortium led by Srinivasan are working on improving the sodium-ion batteries that companies like Peak Energy are already buying. One eventual goal, he says, is to figure out how to make battery packs for electric vehicles that are as energy-dense as the current standard for lower-cost EV batteries, known as lithium iron phosphate, or LFP. These are used in base models of the Tesla Model 3, Ford F-150 Lightning, Mustang Mach-E, and many models of Chinese vehicles.
Getting there will require a substantial amount of research, as there are many problems to overcome, says Srinivasan. One is figuring out how to tweak the chemistry of current sodium-ion batteries to eliminate nickel—a China-controlled critical mineral. Another is figuring out how to cram more of them into a smaller space to make the battery packs more competitive with lithium-ion.
Ultimately, what could make sodium-ion batteries a viable alternative for electric vehicles is that the rest of the tech in an EV is also evolving. As Lucid Motors CEO Peter Rawlinson mentioned in a recent interview on the Wall Street Journal’s Bold Names podcast, advancing technology in every aspect of their vehicles means that in the future, EVs with far smaller battery packs could go just as far as ones with larger packs do today.
Getting there will require just as much policymaking as science, says Mossburg. For example, if the U.S. slaps broad tariffs on imported Chinese goods, his company could be hamstrung, unless there’s a carve-out for sodium-ion batteries. Despite analysts’ worries that policies of the next administration will derail the U.S. build-out of next-generation energy technologies, he remains optimistic.
“In our discussions with the incoming administration, we are seeing a fairly bipartisan viewpoint that energy security is national security,” says Mossburg. “Whether your tactic is the Inflation Reduction Act, or tariffs, the goal is the same—to create space for fledgling companies in the U.S. to grow up to become globally competitive.”
...meanwhile more dramas as always in Lithium M&A.
Shareholders take Arcadium Lithium to court claiming negligence in Rio Tinto mega deal
https://x.com/HC_Haplo/status/1868610241069510813
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