The historical data given by an anthreapolgist for another matter in the area that I found here...
was not very positive re community status for tribes in the region ...
http://www.spitskoppropinliq.co.za/DATA/Answer%20by%20Spitskop/KMBT25020090907155543.pdf
Page 23 Mr Zet Maphanga signed on behalf of the claim of Chief Msuthu 11 Nicholas Nkosi of the Soupiana Tribal Authority.He must represent a few or they have changed their name...difficult to consult if thats the case..
Any mention of this tribe of this Chief or Tribal Authority in recent court proceedings? I will check sometime.
Which might answer Shadowboxers question posted here back on 18/12/10
"It appears to me the Roka-Phasha Pokwane Tribal Authority holds the rights to Eerste Geluk and Bengwenyama-Ya-Maswati tribe (not Bengwenya Minerals) hold the surface rights to Nooitverwacht and Soupiana even thou Bengwenya Minerals hasnt disputed the rights of Soupiana which is beyond me why not."
If I may QUOTE SHADOWBOXER HC
"I assumed because you metioned sending this information to the ASIC it was because of how they could upgrade the resource on Tabatse when there was a court injuction to stop drilling on Eerste Geluk, Nooitverwacht and just pointing out it was done on Hoepakrantz which is part of the Tabatse project but was not under any court order.
The ownership of Hoepakrantz is also in dispute in the high court hence the reason I think they havent upgrade it yet, Ive calculated it to be about 12 to 14 thousand meters of drilling in a previous post of mine.
Its also interesting to see that two thirds of the drilling on the farms Eerste Geluk, Nooitverwacht has been done on Eerste Geluk so a basic assumpsion might be that Eerste Geluk holds 13.58 Moz and Nooitverwacht holds 6.79 Moz of the total inferred resource of 20.37 Moz.
It appears to me the Roka-Phasha Pokwane Tribal Authority holds the rights to Eerste Geluk and Bengwenyama-Ya-Maswati tribe (not Bengwenya Minerals) hold the surface rights to Nooitverwacht and Soupiana even thou Bengwenya Minerals hasnt disputed the rights of Soupiana which is beyond me why not.
The point I'm making is wouldnt it be more benifical for the Bengwenyama-Ya-Maswati tribe to have 5% interest via Genorah shareholding in 20.37 Moz rather than just 6.79 Moz which from memory is all Bengwenya Minerals is offering anyway. A stand alone mine for Nooitverwacht may not be viable were as a mine for Eerste Geluk, Nooitverwacht, Hoepakrantz is. This Concourt verdict may turn out to be a hollow victory for the Bengwenyama-Ya-Maswati tribe.
Another thing is why hasnt Anglo realeased information to its shareholder about the action it is taking against the DMR for the 5 farms in the Garatau/Tabatse projects.
This is not legal action by the way but does preserve the right to take legal action. The last time they used PAJA was with the Kumba Resources which they hold a stake and notified shareholders immediately which was within 180 days as per PAJA guidelines were as these issue's are three years old so how is it possible to contest anyway.
For all those bleeding hearts out there it was also of interest to me that Kumba Iron only has 3% set aside for the community where we had people saying it was disgraceful that Genorah only offered 5% to Bengwenyama-Ya-Maswati remembering this is free carried all the way to production.
Just one more thing, people are reading media article assuming they have the full facts and appears even Anglo America are annoyed with this inaccurate reporting"
Great post Shadowboxer
I dont know how far we have come since then
but not giving up.
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