Jung on the Archetype of the Apocalypse

Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

hi tau - I'll reply to your other post soon. Need more coffee first.

'vanilla' means --------- ordinary.

red cedar is talking about his current fav. Jung - and he's talking about dreams - 'flying dreams'.

He is talking about 'ordinary' flying dreams - they are common as duck poop at a pond.

here is what my point is -

1. Flying dreams - common, almost everyone has had some
2. Precognitive dreams - definitely NOT common, although many people have had them, one can have none or very very few in a lifetime - if they are 'for sure' - they are always well worth of discussion.

3. What we call 'precognitive dreams' - but, they happen as real events are taking place - RARE RARE RARE, almost no one has them. When you get someone who has - it's like finding a 20 karat diamond on the footpath - you take your time. AND - you don't bother discussing the weather -
does that make sense????

I'll get back to your other post a little later - I now think that - you ?? may have had a point 3. dream - but, probably more likely a precognitive dream (the plane one) of what some people have, but not the rare rare version.
Your mothers dream is again - another kettle of fish - and that is well worth thinking through as well.

I'll just give you a heads up here - it was a precognitive dream by a man I met around 30 years back, that has sent me on what appears to be a life's work. I explore and play with this stuff every single day and have done for about 3 decades - it's led me to all kinds of corners - cause and effect, random chance, quantum mechanics, "emergent properties" where complex behaviour emerges from an environment which would appear too simple to produce that result, interface between the macro- and micro-worlds

all of it - is deep in weird poop country - and, IT'S REAL.

Einstein called it 'spooky action at a distance' (and basically shook his head, walked away saying 'I don't want to know' (with a backcountry English accent)
I'd more call it - weird poop - or slippery physics.

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The problem dream prognosticators have to live with it is they haven't got a clue.

Jung is the only person in recent history who can look at a string of dreams-- because one alone isn't going to give many answers--and by introducing archetypes and myths that resude in the Collective unconscious give the subject something to chew on.

The rest is just fancy sounding scientific words and exciting unproven ideas such as string theory and quantum entangled testicles!