ever the sales pitch with deception as method, page-5

Agree with you completly nursery.
I have known a number of poeple in my business life who are driven by deep seated psychological drivers and 'messages'that winning and money (in that order) are thier primary life goal. Often they are not even aware of what it is that drive them.
All obstacles are merely challenges to thier quest and common sense or reasonable thoughts are lost along the way.

A major personal trauma is usually the only thing that stops them. Whilst I do not wish such a thing to occur to anyone even NC, I do beleive this will be a fight to the end whatever that might be.