Wazzoo I was invested in CVI and I can tell you many many astute traders and investors looked that bloke in the eye and only saw integrity. U see the worst kind of decpetion is when the deceiver is themselves deceived (or beleives their own shyte) as they can then be very very convincing. So even looking them in the eye does not help. Its better for me to be unemotionally involved wiht NO relationship at all. Thats just me. Once again this is nothing really to do with ORD but more why I dont ever intend to attend unless of course there comes the day that I am still around when forst ore is shipped. On that day I would attend just for the party (and tax deductibel holidays)!
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