Make up matter..., are matter.... - same thing obviously, except perhaps to a nit picker.
Our current technology in geophysics is sufficient to measure any global energy/matter loss or transfer. As that is what I presume is meant in this piece from Duicorp:
"matter cannot be destroyed...it only transforms from one form to another....since matter is eternal.....why is it so hard to understand that we are too."
And of course matter can be transferred to varying energy states.
When deluded religionists start babbling their psuedoscience their discussion just decends into pointless embarrassing gobbledegook and on the basis of previous threads it is evident there is no point going there.
