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    re: where is the do-gooders brick 50 in post 20629 fallguy referred to crime rates and a web site. I recommend a browse of the who;e site referred to at:- http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/ethnicity-crime
    There are a number of chapters and one of them refers to Victorian data only because Vic was the only state gathering data on ethnicity of those perpetuating crime. Interpreting the data is problematical because of definitions. What is a crime?

    Part of the intro to the Chapter (4) says
    There is no way of knowing the background, including the country of birth, of
    every one who commits a crime in Australia. A comparatively large number of
    offences, as research and surveys over the last 25 years have revealed, is never
    reported to the authorities and as such generate no records of their occurrence.
    This number is close to 60 per cent of all offences that occur in a community.75
    Even those that are reported to the police not all are recorded. Investigations of
    offences are only able to solve by apprehension a relatively small proportion of
    recorded offences. As an example consider the data for Victoria (Victoria is
    the only jurisdiction in Australia which publishes place of birth information of
    persons processed by the State police). The 1996 Victorian Crime
    Victimisation Survey76 reveals that there were 342,100 victimisations (the
    offences included in the survey were break and enter, attempted break and
    enter, motor vehicle theft, assault, sexual assault, and robbery) in Victoria of
    which 154,400 were reported to the police. The police recorded in 1996-97 a
    total of 139,629 offences, falling in the above categories. Only 38,380 of these
    recorded offences were solved by the Victoria police, that is equal to 11.2 per
    cent of all victimisations or 27.5 per cent of recorded offences. The point is,
    the background of who committed these offences is known of perpetrators of
    solved offences only. Therefore, all those arrested and processed by the
    Victoria police in that year represent a small proportion offenders who commit
    crime.
    Victoria police processed a total 139,852 alleged offenders (not distinct
    offenders) in 1996-97 and the country of birth details were available for 88.5
    per cent of these offenders. Until 1995 the Office of Crime Statistics, South
    Australia used to publish country of birth details of alleged offenders tried at
    the Magistrates and Supreme Courts. But birth place details could be identified
    for only about 50 per cent of the alleged offenders. The above office, in 1996,
    decided not to publish the ethnicity details because they were ‘misused’.
    Western Australia Police have begun publishing ethnicity or ethnic appearance of alleged offenders. Such detail is based on observation or description of an
    alleged offender. The WA Police have identified 10 ethnic groups: Aboriginal,
    Asian, Caucasian, Indian, Latin, Negroid, Polynesian, Middle Eastern, Southern
    European, and South and Central American.
    The previous chapters have revealed the following in respect of the relationship
    between foreign-born and crime in Australia:
    1. The crime rate of foreign-born population is lower than that of the nativeborn
    (Dr Morris, in his written comments to the Committee added an interesting
    qualification - crime rate amongst recent immigrants was lower than the “Old
    Australians” in similar financial and living conditions
    2. The arrest rate of immigrant groups varies widely and also differs from arrest
    rate in their country of origin
    3. The crime rate of second generation of migrants is higher than that of their
    parents’ generation and this rate approximates the crime rates of the native-born
    population
    4. Members of the foreign-born population are victims of crime more often than
    members of the native-born population, and
    5. Some foreign-born groups are involved in organised crime.
    There theTable entitled:-
    Table 4.1: Offence and Suspect Rates in Country of Birth and Alleged
    Offender Rates in Victoria by Country of Birth - per 100 000 Population
    TOTAL CRIME
    I will not post the Table because it scrambles, but the author after some qualifying comments about statistics from foreign countries says:
    Arrest Statistics of Victoria - Alleged Offenders
    Suspect/arrest rates in Victoria reveal some interesting differences. Of the 26
    countries listed, offenders born in nine of these countries had an arrest rate
    higher than the total arrest rate and the arrest rate of the Australians born in
    Victoria. Arrest rates of those born in Romania, Former Yugoslavia, Soviet
    Republic, Lebanon, Turkey, and Fiji are high, indeed these arrest rates were
    higher than rates in their countries of birth; it is highly likely that suspect rates
    of those born in Vietnam and Cambodia falls in this category. Arrest rate of
    those born in New Zealand was higher than that of Australian-born but lower
    than that in New Zealand. Also Victorian arrest rates of those born in
    Germany, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, and the United States were lower than
    arrest rates in those countries. At this stage these data are illustrative only. In a few years time if the data reveal certain patterns and trends it will be necessary
    to investigate these differences in detail. The issues that need to be investigated
    are whether migrants from certain countries display a higher proclivity to crime
    while in Australia than those from other countries. This remains a difficult
    task. Crime statistics, currently available, show only whether members of some
    migrant groups have higher arrest rate than others; they do not reveal whether
    they commit crime at a higher rate than others. However, if members of some
    migrant groups continue to display a consistently high arrest rate over several
    years, this fact must be examined carefully.
    Statistics on offenders processed, available since 1993-94 from Victoria, clearly
    show that persons born in Romania, Former Yugoslavia, the Russian
    Federation, Lebanon, Turkey, Vietnam, and New Zealand were arrested at a
    higher rate than other migrant groups and the Australian-born during the five
    year period.

    Further on he says"
    A general pattern that emerges is that immigrant groups with low levels of or
    no qualification, poor English proficiency, and relatively high level of
    unemployment also have higher arrest rate than the rest. This is particularly
    relevant for recent migrant groups. Thus, among the foreign-born, those-born
    in Cambodia, Lebanon, Romania, Russian Federation, Turkey, and Vietnam
    have a high unemployment rate (very high unemployment rate among those
    with poor English proficiency), have low English proficiency, and relatively
    low qualifications. There are exceptions, for example a group may display two
    of the three deficiencies and not have high arrest rate. Examples in this
    category are migrants from Greece and Italy. More than three quarters of
    migrants from Greece and Italy have no formal qualification, and more than a
    quarter of the population has poor English proficiency but their unemployment
    rate is very low; their arrest rate is also very low. These two migrant groups
    came to Australia in large numbers in the 1950s and the data probably reflect
    well- established community and the resultant age structure. This type of
    analysis could be effectively carried out when data are available for the past
    several years.

    Then for drug offences he says:
    For drug offences suspects born in eight countries
    (Romania, Former Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Lebanon, Turkey, Fiji, New Zealand
    and Cambodia) had higher arrest rate than those born in Australia (see Table
    4.3). Migrants from these eight countries also had higher alleged offender rates
    for total crime (see Table 4.1). Another interesting observation is that with very
    few exceptions, drugs arrest rates of those born overseas and live in Victoria
    are higher than those in their country of origin, in some cases the rates were
    several times higher. Suspects born in the same nine countries show higher arrest rates for the
    offence of major assault than those born in Australia. Together, arrests for drug
    offences and major assaults account for about 15 per cent of all arrests. For the
    remaining three serious violent offences of robbery, rape, homicide the arrest
    pattern by country of birth was not so clear (see Tables 4.4 to 4.7). The number
    of arrests for these specific offences for most migrant groups is very small and
    caution must be taken to interpret the data.

    Based on the figures it seems the viets are a major problem, but the lebs and turks are way up there, amongst others.

    Regards

    Desmond

    ps do not forget there are muslims in Yugoslavia, but few if any in Romania.

 
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