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Originally posted by Teddyward: ↑

I am all ears understand your point of view so lets flesh it out a little and see what I am missing.

The economics of producing hydrogen - What competitive advantage does untested wave energy have over solar, wind,hydro, pumped hydro nuclear . Hydrogen or some other form of processed liquid fuel format or battery with efficiency that can be safely stored at normal temps and pressure.

Many of the perceived advantages of wave energy are disappearing. Yes predictability was it's big selling point as it worked at night and a few days / weeks out you could see what probable energy could be produced at a given time. With battery technology, new network design pumped hydro etc some of these issues have been mitigated and taken the premium out of a perceived advantage. Then the hydrogen or liquid fuel storage and then using cells or even hydrogen combustion to produce energy from stored hydrogen literally takes it out of equation as you can use massive solar , wind, geothermal etc and create hydrogen or a liquid fuel and at night use that , stored batteries etc etc.

Longevity - unfortunately things in water have maintenance issues greater than in other environments and are at higher danger of elements like storms.or single failure of mooring points etc. Cost of doing everything on water is greater due to distance and specialist skills with added wear and tear all adding to cost.

So in some niche environments for a limited number of uses where alternative generation may be expensive or ethically undesirable like burning diesel like King Island some sort of supplementary wave generation may have a place but as a shareholder you need to ask how many of these exact areas exist with governments and infrastructure willing who are willing to take a 20 plus year gamble on payback and also gamble that new technology doesn't make you a obsolete white elephant.

So wild claims about gazbillions of KWH in ocean waves mean diddly squat unless it is economic compared to existing let alone future energy storage sources and constant efficiencies being made in existing networks and generation options.

So let me know exactly how big the real market for the product is , at what price and at what risk as that is the 1st Study CCE should be presenting and showing at their current stage of development exactly where they are up to and what barriers to entry they have in front of them and how they will solve it.

Those calling people like me downrampers have a very uneducated and narrow view just because I have a alternative view and it happens to oppose their view. The immaturity of being unable to discuss the situation makes it laughable. The above points and many others were asked of previous management and the failure to answer was a tell-tail sign that all was not well in developing a real world device that was economic as they were so far off in so many aspects and showed just how much research they had to go meanwhile the world moved on and other technologies matured.

Happy to read real explanations of where the current stage of development has a competitive advantage in the real world and how CCE can access and execute such a scheme? Please don't overlook te edisadvantages and market barriers just because management has a habit IMO of glossing over the reality of how hard it is to get projects at scale implemented when they don't even have a test bed with sucessful history or energy production and longevity.

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You raise some great, logical points.
CCE has always been one of those sexy green stocks that appeals to "ethical" mum-and-dad investors.
Until I see some new physical units in the water and hard data from a successful trial, it's all just smoke and mirrors.
Welcome to the financial merry-go round of grants, subsidies, partnerships and capital raising.

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