4DS - Anything but Charting, page-19475

Also fwiw: All my conversations with industry I have been
1) very respectful of what they may not be able to say/ tell me,
2) always been extremely humbled at how conservative they all are.... these guys are scientists. engineers. numbers, data and fact rule all. Everything else to them is bulldust. I always left those conversations feeling the wet blanket of reality... wait a couple days then its on with the rosey glasses show...

I feel that that has changed now.
without those metrics... i cannot see how the company regains credibility (word of the night).

That ann definitely shook the faith and readjusted the risk:reward profile of the outcome in my opinion.