Goodness me, you lot need to come out from under your Rocks and WAKE UP, it's becoming stupidity now.
Romans 10:2) For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge.
Psa 42:9 - I will say unto God my rock, Why hast thou forgotten me? why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?
Psa 78:35 - And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.
Deu 31:15 - But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
2 Sam 22:32 - For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?
Would you like the other 50 odd verses, "SURELY" your NOT going to "TRY" this ???? and say this is referring to Jesus, literal Jesus in the OT?
WAKE UP TIME, what and when did God put ALL things into Jesus hands and what was the work that Jesus was to FINISH, to finish something, means it had started.
Did Jesus start it = NO, NO, No as he came after Baptism to FINISH the God and Fathers works, what the Bleepers do you lot NOT SEE?
Deu 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
John 12:49 - For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
Now then, are you all in simplistic picture thus far?
So what were these words of the God and Fathers that Jesus was speaking;
John 3:68 - Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
Well, stone the crows, the God and Fathers words are for eternal life, OH yea that's right, Jesus came to finish something, what was that I wonder;
Gen 3:22 - And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Hallow, hallow, there is those words of eternal life on the tree, hmm, I wonder what that means or who could the Tree be;
1 Peter 1:23 - Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Now then, Jesus speaking his God and Fathers words also says, the are Spirit and life and he also says, you are born again by Water and Spirit. (John 6:63 & 3:5).
Ok then, born of the word of God and born of the Spirit = YOU are only born again via ONE method = Spirit/Word are from "THE" ONE Almighty God and Father which Jesus brought into the world at Baptism timing.
FACTS;
Eph 4:4 - There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
There is "clearly" ONE Spirit, this is and MUST be the HOLY Spirit the owner of the Holy Spirit has to be the owner of the Words of eternal life = "THE" WORD The Almighty God and Father.
"THE" = denoting one or more people or things already mentioned or assumed to be common knowledge
"The" word = The inner and outer of --> The Word of God = no two ways about it.
Common knowledge = John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word;
Gen 1 and God said, and God said, Let there be life = Words of Life.
Psa 33:6 By the Word of the LORD where the heavens made and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth = Spirit.
The WORD - John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
By Him = Is "CLEARLY" shown to be the ONE in Psa 33:6, and no WAY can anyone with a right mind can say it is Jesus and neither can anyone even think or suggest "the Word" referenced in John 1:1-2, is not referring to the very same Word, means, that created in John 1:3.
To suggest otherwise is ABSURD, and a TOTAL disregard of The Spirit of Truth verses YOUR own wants and desires.
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Titus 1:2 - In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Rev 13:8 - And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
1 Cor 2:11- For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
God Spirit is and the Facts of the Bible show us, that that Spirit IS The Holy Spirit, one as in singular.
God "THE" WORD because He "IS" Word loved the Son who was "ONLY" literally born at Mary, "GAVE" Him his Spirit/Word without measure GIVING the Son life in Himself at "BAPTISM" John 5:26 No question about it YOU FOOLISH people!
FACTS and YOU need no FOOL to tell YOU otherwise = Your WORD, your creation STARTS "IN" YOU, you then express it out of YOU, via word to paper, out of YOUR mouth, or at the end of your first, into someones face = FACTS = Spirit of Truth.
So John's first two opening verses ARE outside of Creation, just as the Titus and Rev verses here show, the inner, mind and plans of out Almighty God and Father.
To suggest other wise is to be none other than HOOKED and locked into the following and there is NO other plausible explanation for it = ZERO.
2 Thes 2:11 - And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
The hard facts of reality are well and truly in play here and if one can't see this = rest "OUR" case.
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