wallfly, I went over the show again for your benefit:
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/video.htm?pres=20081002&story=1
Go to it, around the 54 minute mark and watch until Jones puts an end to the subject. You'll find that Costello, in his inimitable way, spoke loudly over the top of Marr, set up a straw man, Marr told him he did so and Jones cut him off to get to another question. There's a difference between what politicians write in their books and what is legal -locally and internationally- and what is moral.
The young man asking the next question as well as the man who was kept in the refugee camp showed exactly what mean hearts the last govn't (and its Labor opposition at the time) had.
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