In order to get in to the market sometimes companies create loss...

In order to get in to the market sometimes companies create loss leaders .

All the risk in this type of deal is with MHM , and in the short term looks like a loss leader to me , however if they are successful in proving up their ability to extract a higher return on the waste than the cost of landfill , then such companies should move to a preferred tolling arrangment , where MHM has little risk .

Still a very long way to go in my view before profit, and positive cash will be visible.

Very dispaointing neither deal , has gievn an indication on numbers albeit ' secret deals' .