Clear and Logical and Disciplined Answer @ozpolarbear ....
It amazes me how many people who don't own are so negative...
For months I was posting on here not owning while I researched and I was positive because the maths is the maths...
It is really curious to me because it is logical to be confident and positive if you own and if you don't own it is difficult to be emotional about it really enough to post deliberate miss-info.
I don't really understand this narcissistic posting? Why would someone disagree so disagreeably if they don't own ?
Thank you Ozpolarbear; your work is added all the time to my Research Mind-map.
Your post is a wonderful example of Logical Arguments. Constructing a Logical Argument is important because often Errors conceal themselves under the cloak of pseudo-reasoning.
It is natural for the Mind to construct Category's from the Continuum of TON Opinion.
What we see here is a Continuous Posting in which many posts are not perceptibly different from each other although there is the obviously distinct extreme ends Bullish and Bearish.
It is important to give no weight to this Continuum other then for fun and intellectual flexing; in my opinion the numbers and the details are what matters.
In my book I give allot of time and effort towards the Disciplines of Valid Form and True Premises to make Deductions based on the Facts available. A Valid Form does not mean that the Premises are True and this Fact is demonstrated time and again by people that post True Appearing Posts that are full of False Premises. This Caution is not made much here or in the World of Speculation but it bears meditation upon!
TON Discussion is only Meaningful as my book contends when it begins with the Virtues of both Valid Form and True Premises.
In many posts One Sentence Negates the next and requires a great effort to break down all the mind-boggling errors.
It is important to realize many of the posts are what are called Enthymemes!
Enthymeme: Arguments which have unstated Premises!
How can we evaluate the truth of a post if the premises remain unstated?
It is easy to throw stones it is allot more difficult to build a house. It took allot more energy for Ozpolarbear to breakdown and unpack the comments then it took to make them. Back to my point about drawing Category's from the Continuum of Posts; I think we must resist this natural inclination and let many of them float away like balloons. Especially the ones close to the Extreme Ends. Cataloging the Individual Errors I think misses the Target.
Facts and Fun are the Target in my opinion....
I will myself defer from the Virtues of Valid Form and True Premises to have fun and sprinkle facts where I can because the Discourse here requires us to never forget this is just for fun and facts and it is not Meaningful until we make it so by our Rigorous attention to the Deductive Argument of our Posts.
In my opinion TON is really on the right path; it needs time and more numbers and I am happy to let the market come to me.
The Fundamentals dear Watson; the Fundamentals!
Kind Regards
DYOR !!!
"By means of Reason we make the world Meaningful; by means of Passion we make it worth Living in it... Greed and Fear always blinds us to the Opposite Extreme End of the Continuum in which our Mind dwells. This is why the Investor that has a penchant for One end will build fortifications around their position rather then leave the comfort of their opinions to journey to the other end of the continuum; Bulls prefer Bullishness and Bears favor Bearishness. Worse still they go to war against the Other Extreme like children fighting over Sand Castles. This is also why the simple principle of buying low and selling high is so difficult for the Majority of people; they like the safety in numbers instead of calculating Value for themselves and having the courage to journey where many fear to tread going against the Majority." = Nasabear
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