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AHZ - broker data, page-42

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    I know you didn't (Suckii did), and i agree, 6 x rev is cheap (compared to peers). Although, i will say that valuing companies on revenue should absolutely be thrown out the door as soon as the company has earnings. Valuing on revenue is only done because there is some underlying assumptions about how much of that revenue will be converted to earnings at some point in the future. Once the market discovers that none of the revenue can be converted to earnings, how much do you think they'd be willing to pay for that revenue?

    For example, the list below is all of the Healthcare / Biotech shares in the all ords index (we're not in there because we're not in the all ords index). Take a look at the diffs. Ive got to say, im failing to see any kind of reliable pattern here...

    Note: MC is as at June this year, but Rev is from the 2016 FY.
    * Revenue is statutory revenue, so not quite "real".
    Not entirely correct in any sense, but it serves to illustrate a point.

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5
    0 Company name ASX code MC (000's) 2016 Rev (mill) MC / rev Multiple
    1 CSL LIMITED CSL 65,048,236 8,138.30 7.99
    2 RAMSAY HEALTH CARE LIMITED RHC 14,747,890 8,684.10 1.70
    3 RESMED INC RMD 14,575,416 2,476.00 5.89
    4 SONIC HEALTHCARE LIMITED SHL 10,094,239 4,962.90 2.03
    5 COCHLEAR LIMITED COH 9,161,848 1,130.60 8.10
    6 FISHER & PAYKEL HEALTHCARE CORPORATION LIMITED FPH 6,077,750 794.1 7.65
    7 HEALTHSCOPE LIMITED. HSO 3,767,207 2,276.20 1.66
    8 ANSELL LIMITED ANN 3,522,063 2,118.00 1.66
    9 PRIMARY HEALTH CARE LIMITED PRY 1,950,159 1,613.50 1.21
    10 MAYNE PHARMA GROUP LIMITED MYX 1,708,552 267.5 6.39
    11 REGIS HEALTHCARE LIMITED REG 1,201,434 134.4 8.94
    12 SIGMA HEALTHCARE LIMITED SIG 924,705 4,433.20 0.21
    13 AUSTRALIAN PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIES LIMITED API 906,131 3,844.70 0.24
    14 MESOBLAST LIMITED MSB 898,693 55.8 16.11
    15 ESTIA HEALTH LIMITED EHE 802,656 442.8 1.81
    16 SIRTEX MEDICAL LIMITED SRX 783,518 232.5 3.37
    17 NANOSONICS LIMITED NAN 771,128 42.8 18.02
    18 JAPARA HEALTHCARE LIMITED JHC 557,647 325.3 1.71
    19 PRO MEDICUS LIMITED PME 556,420 27.5 20.23
    20 VIRTUS HEALTH LIMITED VRT 436,510 261.1 1.67
    21 MONASH IVF GROUP LIMITED MVF 414,296 156.6 2.65
    22 REVA MEDICAL, INC RVA 356,064   -
    23 MEDICAL DEVELOPMENTS INTERNATIONAL LIMITED MVP 309,620 15.5 19.98
    24 CLINUVEL PHARMACEUTICALS LIMITED CUV 307,415 6.2 49.58
    25 IMPEDIMED LIMITED IPD 296,361 5.8 51.10
    26 PACIFIC SMILES GROUP LIMITED PSQ 287,268 84.9 3.38
    27 STARPHARMA HOLDINGS LIMITED SPL 273,128 3.8 71.88
    28 INTEGRAL DIAGNOSTICS LIMITED IDX 232,071 165.4 1.40
    29 VIRALYTICS LIMITED VLA 226,186   -
    30 AIRXPANDERS, INC. AXP 192,502 0.8 240.63
    31 BIONOMICS LIMITED BNO 185,372 8.1 22.89
    32 RESAPP HEALTH LIMITED RAP 184,947   -
    33 SOMNOMED LIMITED SOM 174,760 44.1 3.96
    34 ONEVIEW HEALTHCARE PLC ONE 174,637 13.1 13.33
    35 1300 SMILES LIMITED ONT 151,542 36.2 4.19
    36 INNATE IMMUNOTHERAPEUTICS LIMITED IIL 144,401   -
    37 TPI ENTERPRISES LIMITED TPE 142,513 7.6 18.75
    38 ELLEX MEDICAL LASERS LIMITED ELX 131,444 73.1 1.80
    39 COGSTATE LTD CGS 129,584 27.3 4.75
    40 PARAGON CARE LIMITED PGC 128,714 93.3 1.38
    41 COMPUMEDICS LIMITED CMP 123,128 37.5 3.28
    42 POLYNOVO LIMITED PNV 118,240 3.3 35.83
    43 OBJ LIMITED OBJ 87,002 1.3 66.92
    44 APIAM ANIMAL HEALTH LIMITED AHX 66,777 54.1 1.23

    Oh, and the table below is AHZ data.... again, i'm failing to see any kind of revenue multiple rule or pattern here (but perhaps i'm just dumb)

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 Column 6
    0   2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 (Est)
    1 Revenue 7.4 7.9 10.2 14.1 22
    2 Shares on Issue (M) 112 146.4 185.5 196.3 256
    3 June 30th SP 0.46 1.32 0.7 0.325 0.28
    4 Average SP   0.89 1.01 0.5125 0.3025
    5 Market Cap (M) 51.52 193.25 129.85 63.80 71.68
    6 Average MC   122.38 161.55 96.82 67.74
    7 MC Rev Multiple   24.46 12.73 4.52 3.26

    *Nb: average SP / MC isn't really correct, as i only took 2 points, but again, it serves to illustrate the point.

    I am currently valuing AHZ on a whole set of assumptions about how much revenue will grow by, how quickly, gross margin improvements, cost control, future earnings, and how much the market is willing to pay for those earnings.

    Rules of thumb are good in certain circumstances, but applying a "rule" of 6 x revenue to value AHZ (or any other company) is just ridiculous.
 
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