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03/04/24

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Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

disagree

if we want a different outcome to the scomo and gg debacle

then, we need to change the system

one cannot trust that one will have someone in future in a powerful position to do the 'right thing' when the rules allow for someone to ignore a situation or have to comply with a situation that's not right

one also has the problem of 'what is the 'right thing''?

it means different things to different people.

Aside from the base culture in Oz which has a lot of problems - the real problems in Oz are basically system

1. Federation
2. this stupidity of still having the king or queen or reps having anything to do with Australia
3. a constitution full of holes

Whilst I think that we needed to fix all of this stuff before being thrown head first into this ultra high speed changing technological era - and I know think that it's too late to save ourselves

the fact is - that the crappiness of the system still needs a total revamp

we are trying to run as a nation - when we cannot possibly get off the ground as a hobbling country ----------- it's clear that this ball on the chain of australia has been holding us back for decades ------- many many many decades

and it's not going to get any better

Some people have been saying all the while - if it ain't broke, don't fix it

well, it's been broken from day 1 - and if those who say such things cannot see that oz is badly broken - sold off all it's resource companies, can't house it's people, has an enormous wealth gap, has an economy built on rising house prices and is way overpriced etc etc -

then, they are truly blind

the question to any sane mind is not 'do we need a revamp and reset?' -

the question is 'how the hell would we do it?'

I have no answer bar one --------------- 'coup'. Then a new constitution and elections

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Do I read into your rant that had we developed since 1788 with only a single government and, in due course, lots of municipal councils that we would be a better place?
That we wouldn’t have relied on imported capital to develop the country – with that imported capital thereby acquiring “resource companies” etc.
Or should our nation of what was 7m in 1945 have tried to bootstrap ourselves with our puny financial resources and resisting overseas investments. In what shape do you think Australia would be today?
And, as to our Constitution being “full of holes” as you put it – the Constitution adopted as from January 1901 was crafted from the US 1787 Constitution and any cause for improvements identified in the intervening 114 years were incorporated.
Please list all the other “brand new” self-governing countries that have arisen in the last 224 years and please identify how and where their Constitutions are superior to ours. Try this LINK.
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