Wotsup as an analogy
when you say that a Builder is constructing your new house
and later you say that Bob is constructing your house
then even a child knows that he is Bob the Builder
Your talking that Horse (S..) again mate;
I have a builder that you could say is building my house right now, However, He personally has not laid a hand on one brick, by the Word of the Builder he has instructed various trades to do this and that.
So through these tradies, the builder has built the house through them.
However, in God's creation and considering his Word is also Spirit, the Almighty God (The Word) --> Psa By the Word of the LORD were the heavens made and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth = Spirit as in, John 4:24 Spirit the God is = The One and Only Holy Spirit.
Now Jesus ONLY received this without measure at his Baptism.
Now the very reference you quoted, yes the one you ONLY appear, to be able to only see Half of --> Heb1:2
But in
these last days
He has spoken to us by through (IN) His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and
through
whom He made the universe.
Deu 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words (The Word = The Word of God) in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Raise - Luke 2:40 & 52 - [SIZE=16px]And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.[/SIZE]
[BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]in favour with God[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px] and man.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px]Luke 4:18 - [/SIZE][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px][B]The Spirit of the Lord [/B][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][I][I][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]is[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/I][/I][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px][B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]upon me-->,[/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=16px][B]because [/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]he hath anointed me to preach the [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]Good News [/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=16px][B](Flesh)[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Roboto][COLOR=#0000ff][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px][B]Meaning --> [/B][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]John 5:26 - For as the Father has life in himself [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px][I](John 1:4) [/I][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px]so has he given to the son to have life in himself.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px]John 12:49 - [FONT=Roboto][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]For I have [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]not spoken [/SIZE][/B][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][BCOLOR=transparent][B][I](The Word) [/I][/B][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=transparent][B][SIZE=16px]of myself;[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px] but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[SIZE=16px]And these words are Spirit and the Words of eternal life = now life within himself at Baptism timing John 6:63 & 6:68.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px]The Word = The Word of God which are Spirit, the Holy Spirit were in NO WAY Jesus's, they were given to him.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px]YOU CANNOT be the thing you are given, He was the carrier of The Word and Spirit, one in the same, from The One and Only Almighty God and Father.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px]Hence, now exalted, name above all names, by INHERITANCE = The Word of God, name meaning and representing the role he did, performed.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px]Use your head for once, to inherit something, [/SIZE][B]it [/B][SIZE=16px]needed to exist prior John 1:1............................And God WAS the Word.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px]WORD = Almighty God and Father THE Aleph Tav, THE Word.[/SIZE]
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Are You paying attention here chum Heb 1:2 -- Last days only = Houston, we have a problem.
Heb 11:3 - Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
As per John 1:3 -
All things were made through him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Gens creation --> and God said and God said and there was Life, yes the very life = The Word of life as per 1 John 1:1, creation which we have seen and handled.
So naturally, anyone with half a brain can SEE, it is impossible for Jesus to be the speaker of creation in Gen and therefore John 1:3 as well as The Almighty God and Father has ONLY spoke in and through Jesus in these
last days.
As shown in John 14:10 which is exactly what John 1:14 IS referring to.
Immanuel, God with us as promised, he would be with the future one when he came, as we all know, Jesus was NEVER called Immanuel.
Jesus also NEVER EVER claimed to of had a Hands on role, literal hands on in creation which YOU totally ignore.
Matt 19:4 -
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Gen 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Whose Jesus talking about here = John 20:17 I ascend to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God. = The HE above.
Neh 9:6 -
Thou, thou, LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
Psa 102:25 - Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
Isa 45:12 -I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, evenmy hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have Icommanded. = Spoke
Very very clear here Tonio and there is no way that you, as you have done in the past, can say the He referred to in the Matt reference is referring to god the father, god the son and god the holy spirit as that would be --> horse sh...
1Cor8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom
all things came
and for
whom we exist.
And there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,
through
whom all things came and through whom we exist.
Greek - Yet to us
ONE
God, the Father, of whom the things all things, and we for him;
AND
ONE
Lord, Jesus Christ through whom the things all things, and we through him.
Titus 1:2 - In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before time eternal;
How - Eph 3:9 - [SIZE=16px]And to make all [/SIZE][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]men[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][SIZE=16px] see what [/SIZE][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]is[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px] the fellowship of the [/SIZE][/SIZE][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=16px][B]mystery[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px], which from the beginning of the world hath been [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][B]hid in [/B][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]God, [/SIZE][/SIZE][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=16px][B]who created all things:[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][/SIZE]
Rev 13:8 - [SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]Lamb [/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][B]slain --> from [/B][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][B][SIZE=16px]the foundation of the world. [I](Foundation in Greek also has the meaning, conception = God's inner plans as in the hidden mystery, are a foundation, inner logos, inner creation which is where all out creations, words, begin. So the Lamb here, was pre-slain in the mind and plans of God, know as Glory and held via Him before the world literally existed).[/I][/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][/SIZE]
2 Tim 1:9 - [SIZE=16px]Who hath saved us, and called [/SIZE][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]us[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px] with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]his own purpose and grace,[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px] which was [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]given [/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=16px][B]us [/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=16px][B][SIZE=16px]in Christ Jesus before the world began,[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][/BCOLOR]
Eph 1:4 - According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Were these guys around before the earths creation to be called? = No.
Was Jesus slain right back then whom this life, calling was going to come THROUGH? = NO.
And yet it was THROUGH Jesus, they were called and given life eternal and YET at this point in time, there was NO literal through Jesus, that they were called and saved.
Just as when God created ALL things through Jesus, there was no literal Jesus through whom God created, and yet, we can rightfully say, God did this through Jesus.
Which simply means, in the mind and plans of God, his first inner creation, glory, was to have a Son in the future and for this reason, for the sake of, because of, on account of, through this future one to be, I God will create all these things.
And when the times are full filled, I will put all things in his hands, under his feet, meaning then, everything will now be literally through Jesus, not just in my plans, He will have a literal hands on.
But before this, he is the beginning of my INNER creation, the firstborn of my inner creation. Rev 3:14 and Col 1:15.
Hence all the above confirmed via Jesus in the Greek truth of John 17:5.
God IS Glory as is his Words and plans.
John 17:5 - And now glorify Me You, Father, with Yourself, with Glory insofar held before the world existed-->, with You.
Jesus now asking for God's literal presence, Glory, first time, and the Glory held via God as in the likes of Titus 1:2, Rev 13:8 Rev 3:14, Col 1:5 etc, etc as we know God considers things that are not yet done, as though they are already done = Glory.
And Jesus here, makes it very clear, these plans, glory existed with God alone before the world even literally existed with God alone.
So Tonio, there is no way possible that you can produce a single verse where Jesus has spoken creation into being which you need to, if you want to say Jesus in the Word in John 1:1 as verse 1:3 dictates this.
