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    Your now tying yourself in knots, blubbering,... made and created as though where talking two different things, aspects.
    The language in the Gen's account, uses both these terms to mean, one in the same


    Wotsup,
    I was just quoting the words used in each verse. One said made and the other created.
    I am quite happy to agree that they mean the same.
    Of course that leaves you no room to argue that Jesus is not the Word.
    Here are the verses again

    John 1:3
    Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made

    Col 1:16
    For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him.

    Wotsup in John 1:3 we have all things created through the Word
    in Col 1:16 we have all things created through Jesus

    The Word is Jesus.
    Jesus is the Word.



    According to the following, it is impossible for Jesus to be the speaker, hence The Word, of the events in John 1:3 and as per the Gens creation, and GOD said....
    1:2 - ​
    Hath in these last days spoken unto us IN Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things,through, on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of whom also he -->(GOD)made the worlds;


    So until YOU can talk your way around this Hebrews verse, LAST DAYS, You have diddly s... to speak about.

    Wotsup,
    It is clear from the above statement that you have never read the Bible.
    You have once again cherry picked one verse and also falsely added on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of
    Let us expand the verse to get a true understanding

    Heb 1: 1-2
    1God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

    God speaks to the phophets through the Word
    Jesus is the Word who speaks the Word of God to the phophets
    and the phophets while they are being lead and reminded all that they heard by the Holy Spirit, speak to the people .

    The only time that the Father spoke to the people directly, they could not bear it, so God said he would send one of their own,
    a phophet like Moses.
    This is Jesus, the phophet who is God with us.

    Jesus was the Word that spoke the Word of God to the phophets but in these last days he has spoken directly to the people.
 
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