Like i said i choose not to disclose, the details are between me...

Like i said i choose not to disclose, the details are between me myself an i and it will remain that way until i'm out. Is that OK with you?

Unlike you do not lie about my position, i just choose not to disclose it.

I still think TMR have better fundamentals, i don't think they're going broke and i think they'll come out of these tough times with good copper grade and production costs will come down.

As for Armenia, 90% chance it will be sold, 8% of JV and 2% of them getting capital to go at it alone.

This going broke stuff is a little premature.