Getting quite lively here @TylemahosAs long as you have a DC INPUT into your Tesla (or whatever) you can charge it with whatever you like. Could be a big MOFO DC battery - which is what these containerised distributed power systems are. Or it could be your friendly neighbourhood nuclear reactor. Or anything in between. The only thing that matters is that there is more power going in than coming out. Now you will want to match (DC) supply voltage and required amps.
If your Tesla is set to take only 30 amps, for e.g., then that will be restricted at the plug and/ or the BMS end - so it doesn't matter if you have 100 amps on hand - it's gonna be restricted. Otherwise, it wont be a pretty site in Mr T's garage. Reckon you will only have 20 amps at your disposal but you maybe could wire a line for 30 amps.
No matter - she is charging overnight and when you drive it to work (or carpark) she is charging again. it won't allow it to overcharge - you are just "everready" if you get my gist.
Now @jonno007 on the matter of the "booming" EV car market in China - er.... relative to what....or should that be Watt?
With mix of carrot and stick it is going forward - but relative to ICE engined cars it is not the happy (middle) kingdom being painted.
Regards those little Electric cars depicted in Jonno's post they look like the same sort of thing i used to see around that had a 500 or 750 cc ICE engine - that is they are tiny. Booming sales ? I dunno. Possibly??
Anyways, here is some recent data that may be of interest:
NEVs exempt from purchase tax in 2014
From September to December 2014, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) and State Administration of Taxation (SAT) published three batches of Catalog of New Energy Vehicles Exempt from Purchase Tax. During this period, a total of 39,400 new energy cars enjoyed purchase tax exemption, including 33,800 passenger cars and 5,615 commercial vehicles. However, no imported models were included.
Areas with over 1,000 new energy cars exempt from purchase tax
Column 1
Column 2
1
Sep to Dec 2014
2
Shanghai
8,740
3
Jiangsu
5,799
4
Beijing
5,526
5
Zhejiang
5,474
6
Guangdong
2,184
7
Shenzhen
1,845
8
Anhui
1,592
9
Hubei
1,537
10
Hunan
1,504
11
Sichuan
1,430
Automakers with over 1,000 new energy cars exempt from purchase tax
Column 1
Column 2
Column 3
1
Sep to Dec 2014
2
Passenger cars
BYD
10,359
3
Geely
9,084
4
BAIC Motor
4,984
5
Hunan Jiangnan Automobile Manufacturing Co., Ltd.
4,309
6
JAC
1,954
7
SAIC
1,738
8
Commercial vehicles
King Long Motor Group
1,338
9
Yutong Bus
1,315
Source: Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, February 10, 2015
Shanghai plugs plate loophole
Youth Daily reporters learnt from local dealers that NEV purchasers must provide relevant documents to prove they have built charging posts, before applying for plates.
The Shanghai Commission of Economy and Information explained that some purchasers are taking advantage of eased qualification for NEV licence plates, by running hybrids exclusively on fuel, rather than electricity. That is why the new rule is issued.
In 2014, there were 8,481 hybrids sold in Shanghai but only 2,405 pure EVs.
Ynet website/ 163 website, February 3, 2015
Analysis of NEV imports in 2014
According to data issued by China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM), China imported a total of 29,436 new energy passenger cars in 2014. Of those, hybrid passenger cars (including PHEVs) contributed 24,683 units, and all-electric cars totaled 4,753 units.
(Note: CAAM did not issue data on new energy car imports in the first half of 2013, so there are no YOY changes.)
2014 new energy passenger car imports
Column 1
Column 2
Column 3
1
All-electric cars
Hybrid passenger cars
2
Jan
0
914
3
Feb
0
0
4
Mar
0
2,090
5
Apr
53
2,385
6
May
545
2,039
7
Jun
958
2,855
8
Jul
305
2,394
9
Aug
439
1,801
10
Sep
1,033
2,058
11
Oct
132
3,166
12
Nov
518
2,663
13
Dec
770
2,318
With respect to brands, the Lexus contributed the most to the total quantity of imported new energy cars, accounting for 78% of the gross number. The Lexus cars sold in China were all hybrid passenger cars.
Top 10 brands by new energy car imports in 2014
Column 1
Column 2
1
2014 imports
2
Lexus
23,080
3
Tesla
3,729
4
Audi
709
5
Porsche
364
6
BMW
221
7
Hyundai
124
8
Kia
97
9
Honda
55
10
VW
78
11
Chevrolet
19
Source: China Association of Automobile Manufacturers, February 10, 2015
BAIC Motor allies with MBtech On February 9, BAIC Motor Corp, a large Chinese passenger vehicle (PV) manufacturer, announced that it would join MBtech Group to build a JV - Beijing BAIC MBtechCenter - to develop new models.
The two companies, each of which Daimler is invested in, will commit a total of 25 million USD in the new JV. Registered capital will account for 10 million USD. BAIC Motor and MBtech will respectively take a 51% and a 49% stake in it.
The announcement states that the JV will be engaged in R&D and sales regarding complete vehicle and parts, as well as in technology R&D. It is aimed to annually develop a new model for BAIC Motor after it is established in three years.
However, the statement also says the JV should get written approval from BAIC Motor and Beijing NEV Co (a new energy vehicle unit affiliated to BAIC Motor) if it intends to develop electric vehicles or other NEV vehicles.
MBtech is headquartered in Germany, and Daimler is a 35% stakeholder in it. It principally offers technology support to automobile OEMs and parts suppliers. It established a subsidiary in Shanghai in 2006.
Reuters website / Sina website, February 9, 2015
BYD raises funds for NEVs Chinese automaker and electronic parts supplier BYD, announced a plan to issue three billion RMB in corporate bonds to meet long term funding demands.
The company also states it will sell LCD and other non-core businesses for 2.3 billion RMB.
Financier Nomura has stated that the funds from the two deals will be used for capacity expansion of electric vehicles and batteries. BYD also says it will allocate more resources to its new energy vehicle business which is booming in China.
10jqka website / Sina website, February 15, 2015
Yutong ambitious for EV coach business in 2015 Data released by Zhengzhou Yutong Bus Co. say a total of 6,823 new energy buses (including plug-in hybrid and electric buses) from the company were registered nationwide in 2014, a YOY surge of 84% over a year ago. The company held 34% market share in the new energy bus market.
Its executives say the company will put more focus on electric buses in 2015, as its plug-in hybrid buses have developed well. In 2014, its electric bus registration only stood at 1,487 units.
Askci website / D1ev website, February 15, 2015
Yes, electric vehicles sales in China is booming - measured from a standpoint of zero - however still a mere fraction of ICE car sales.
