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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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This is an analysis of changes in the top 20 holders of secured notes and changes to top 20 shareholders.
Conversions of secured notes to shares at end of march.
3. NASFUND CONTRIBUTORS SAVINGS & LOAN SOCIETY 1,250,000 1.14 aprox 16.9mil shares
6. DELPHI SYSTEMS PTY LTD 514,280 0.47 >> 6.9mil shrs
No changes to holders of unsecured notes
Top 20 as at 30 April 2010
Rank Name No. %
1. ANZ NOMINEES LIMITED80,886,339 7.46
2. MR JAMES MICHAEL O'DWYER 57,011,770 5.26
3. NATIONAL NOMINEES LIMITED 51,606,861 4.76
4. MR ANDREW WINSTON DOYLE 37,879,235 3.49
5. TRAVIS REDDY + ELINA REDDY27,900,794 2.57
6. CITICORP NOMINEES PTY LIMITED 26,508,904 2.45
7. O'DWYER INVESTMENTS PTY LTD 23,687,184 2.19
8. GEM GLOBAL YIELD FUND LIMITED 21,344,056 1.97
9. MRS VIRGINIA WARNECKE 15,028,577 1.39
10. MR GORDON MENZIES WILSON 12,025,695 1.11
11. DELPHI SYSTEMS PTY LTD 8,560,194 0.79
12. MR DAVID JONATHAN GREGORY 7,500,000 0.69
13. MR PETER BICEVSKIS 7,000,000 0.65
14. MR ROBERT WILSON 6,312,767 0.58
15. MR GRAHAM BUGDEN 5,771,570 0.53
16. MR ZORAN ANCEVSKI 5,650,512 0.52
17. MR TIN SHEUNG LAU 5,600,000 0.52
18. PRIMSTON PTY LTD 5,000,000 0.46
19. MR GILBERT GAVARS 4,379,146 0.40
20. MR PAUL JASON MELROSE 4,080,000 0.38
TOTAL 413,733,604 38.17
Top 20 as at 31 march
Rank Name No. %
1. ANZ NOMINEES LIMITED 75,617,006 7.41
2. MR JAMES MICHAEL O'DWYER 57,011,770 5.59
3. NATIONAL NOMINEES LIMITED 51,606,861 5.06
4. MR ANDREW WINSTON DOYLE 45,569,568 4.46
5. TRAVIS REDDY + ELINA REDDY 27,900,794 2.73
6. CITICORP NOMINEES PTY LIMITED 27,528,904 2.70
7. O'DWYER INVESTMENTS PTY LTD 23,687,184 2.32
8. MRS VIRGINIA WARNECKE 15,028,577 1.47
9. HSBC CUSTODY NOMINEES (AUSTRALIA) LIMITED - A/C 2 14,704,589 1.44
10. MR GORDON MENZIES WILSON 12,025,695 1.18
11. MR PETER BICEVSKIS 6,000,000 0.59
12. MR ROBERT WILSON 5,912,767 0.58
13. MR ZORAN ANCEVSKI 5,650,512 0.55
14. MR TIN SHEUNG LAU 5,600,000 0.55
15. MR GRAHAM BUGDEN 4,771,570 0.47
16. MR DAVID JONATHAN GREGORY 4,600,000 0.45
17. MR PAUL JASON MELROSE 4,080,000 0.40
18. RECONIA PTY LTD 4,027,062 0.39
19. MR FRANC JOSEPH EVANS 4,000,000 0.39
20. MR GILBERT GAVARS 4,000,000 0.39
TOTAL 399,322,859 39.12
Approximate changes since last month.
ANZ Nominees sold down 5mil
M O'Dwyer UNCHANGED!
National Nominees Unchanged
Andrew Doyle, sold down about 8mil.(Also about 7 mil in March)
Reddy Unchanged
Citicorp sold down 1mil
O'Dwyer Nominees UNCHANGED
GEM Increased holding to 21mil (new issues)
Warnecke Unchanged
G M Wilson Unchanged
Delphi Systems Increased to 8.5mil, prev.not in list
Gregory Increased to 7.5m, prev not in list
Bicevskis increased to 7mil, prev not in list
R Wilson increased 400k
Bugden Increased by 1mil
Ancevski Unchanged
Sheng Lau Unchanged
Primston increased to 5mil, prev not in list
Gavars increased 379k
Melrose Unchanged
Decreases (unknown amounts, now out of top 20 list)
Evans decreased below 4mil
Reconia decreased below 4 mil
What's the analysis here?
1. Long time holders, O'Dwyer, G Wilson holding, Bugden increased, So the old faithfuls are hangin' in there. The much maligned MOD is NOT selling at the current low prices.
2. Most of the sellers eg Andrew Doyle, are recent purchasers and are taking advantage of their low price purchases to sell a few, eg AD bought in at .013. AD was issued 52,669,568 shares at .013, now down to 37mil.
3. GEM in the list for the first time, 21,344,056 shrs issued at .013, still got'em all. At the moment, private investors (Doyle & Reddy) have taken up bigger allocations than GEM.
4. Conversions from notes - 24mil of shares at .01. Delphi converted from notes to shares, about 6.9mil, (previously in secured notes, no longer) but has hung onto them as now in the top 20 (again). Nasfund converted to about 16.9mil shares, but does not appear to have kept them as not in the top 20 (or not that we know about).
5. Quite a few of the shares have been taken up in largish parcels. (Gregory, Bicevskis, Primston)
What can we draw from this?
Doyle has sold down about 15mil, but you would not expect him to have sold below .014 (bought in at .013). His sales would have been when the price was up a bit.
T & E Reddy bought in at .014, still holding even though could have sold at .015 easily. Likely in for the longer term for a much better return as they are held in a superannuation fund.
GEM holding, bought in at .013
NasFund got their converted 17.5mil shares at .01. They would (presumably) be prepared to sell at anything over .01. Seems like most of them have been sold now. Maybe a few left to sell that we can't see in the top 20 list(up to 4 mil?).
.. so it looks like:
Doyle has contributed significantly to downward pressure by selling when the price was >= .014, he may have sold some at .013, but probably not, why would he?
Nasfund selling below anybody else, probably responsible for fall to .012. However, they won't have too many left to sell now at .012/.013 you wouldn't think.
Current downward pressure at .012/.013 may be coming from some Nasfund shares left over, or traders who picked up at .012 selling at .013, or traders/investors who picked up above that and now are pulling out at .012 due to stop losses, plus the odd investor scared into pulling out when the price got down below .013.
What's the prediction? (i.e Guess). Unlikely to be many more available for sale at .012. Traders/sellers selling at .013 will need to be worked through, but they're not likely to have a lot of opportunity to get back in under this. It may take a little bit of time for these to all go, but they will eventually. If there's a good announcement the sp will go up but is likely to be limited by profit takers and possible further sales from recent investors who bought in at .013/.014 There's possibly about 50mil+ shares in this category at the moment. I would think that at least this number of shares need to be traded and held for a significant lasting sp increase to take place. That will need a fantastic announcement or a long time (or both) - but long term, a fair chance of multiplying the current price quite significantly.
Wild card - further deals by the board to investors putting a few hundred thousand in from time to time at further discounted prices. Hopefully there won't be at any worse dilution than what would be the case with GEM.
Downside at todays price .012 - probably very little as long as the board don't run away with giving out better deals than GEM get.
This is all just opinion, but hopefully qualified by some logic.
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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