Their problem is that it's the same mgt team that Westpac got...

Their problem is that it's the same mgt team that Westpac got burnt by (even if it was from legal mistake/oversight/USA cheating) so they seem to only be able to raise capital from friendly lenders in the know and a bit from us, plus taking their directors' fees in shares instead of cash. Presume they want to be well into positive cashflow territory so they can go back to bank lenders with heads held high, plus hopefully share price rise puts options comfortably into the green too.

I'll ask your initial question and a version of your point more broadly re pathway to profitability, basically what they think of my opinion. I'm hoping this spikes so I can fund my own innovation projects (cause I can't get easy funding!)