have played both (junior reps in my younger days...i've been...

have played both (junior reps in my younger days...i've been getting better as I recount my exploits and the memories fade...hahahahaha), don't mind a bowl of kava either

i have tried the day-trading thing but wasn't too good at it (i blame it on my bi-polar behaviourial characteristics)

Definitely am 'buy and hold' with this puppy, it's just a matter of time with the share price imo

dare i say i believe that you're on the right track with your sentiments regarding CFR

i hold CFR and CFROB, DYOR