Yes, good question and even management acknowleged it. Had to...

Yes, good question and even management acknowleged it.

Had to laugh when Tom ate humble pie when he read out the question about management taking a credibility hit and actually acknowledging the fact.
I think Toms comment before answering it was " O Boy"

Anyway, if they can get the IC happening soon, then maybe, just maybe 2025 looks ok and management might regain some of that lost confidence.

I know they are only words, someone asked the question about a CR, but the financial dude was pretty confident that with a strong 4th quarter and if IC comes in, then there would be no need.

China does remain a really worry with the property market and Government not spending anything.

My recollections anyway.