Its an explorer, its a question asked about all explorers as there a few that actually make it through to profit. So when will it turn a profit?, it came quite close when we had the Riley mine up and running (1 shipment and it was at the worst possible time), there may be new opportunities come up around March who knows for now we can go with guesstimates and hope. Our board is probably where the most criticism and I am one of those that was not happy with how slow things were proceeding and hence why the 1st Strike given to the board. I hope they received the message and become more proactive in VMS instead of their other businesses.
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