I agree Bob. We are just going around in circles here.
I have explained my interest in these 2 companies a number of times. You've spent time digging into my profile and history here, keep going you'll find the answers.
BTW if you want to get enlightening, transparent and accurate information from Fred, it turns out you'll have to get a lawyer and take him to court. He doesn't give it voluntarily.
Keep up the good work though.
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