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01/07/24
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Originally posted by JB1975:
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this is $230k. 230K is enough to pay Kilian's salary for about half a year. It is a critical component of using iPSC derived MSCs to treat wounds. I don't accept that. Its a discretionary payment now that doesn't seem to be needed to be made now as opposed to later. Without it, we either develop our own (how much do you think that would cost?), or pay a royalty per bandage (how much do you think that would cost?), or just simply avoid the wound space. Paying a royalty per bandage is exactly what I would prefer to see happen as if there is no product there is no royalties to pay. Let the Tekcyte IP holders (and any others that want to use CYP cells to develop any anxiliary technology) show some patience and wear some risk like shareholders that aren't directors have to show some patience and wear some risk. If they have that sort of patience and share that sort of risk fair enough if they get some royalties if their product component is commercial. It would cost nothing because its out of future profits only if there are any. Given it's worth 10-11 figures per annum, USD, that would be an outrageous decision, given the positive pre-clinical data. That (10-11 figures) is not a premise I will grant merely because its been placed on an MST slide. Its too easy to produce those miles away figures. We are not at phase 2 yet even in DFU. This is not the model that has been promoted. I think the new hire to chase partners has been hired too soon. I think Kilian is incurring expenses he doesn't need to incur this early. I fear he and the directors with the support of so called sophs will move the company towards an exit at way under $2. Meaningless announcements of no intrinsic value add can be used to fluff up share prices - but the share prices don't actually represent real value creation when that happens. Any real positive announcement on results would create real intrinsic value - but you aren't waiting for that. Neither is Kilian. I will not believe Kilian has entrepreneurial talent (and pay a premium for that - nor do I think the market will) in the absence of any evidence of that. He has to show entrepreneurial talent (deal-making talent) to get credit for having any. He hasn't done that yet. If in future this turns out to have been a great deal (paying 230k to get clear ownership) - then you can point me back to this time where I've expressed doubts - but until then it you that is expressing your faith not me that is demonstrating any lack of business understanding in my opinion. .
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Also - students can no more pay for a roast chook with $230,000 worth of CYP shares without selling them either. Academic credit is not nothing - its what the Nature Medicine article had. And the same argument you are making about needing to have all aspects of a technological solution bundled up free and clear applies to having 3D manufacturing solutions not just 2D manufacturing solutions. Kilian said - with cells - the process is the product. Well 3D manufacturing is a different process to 2D manufacturing. Cynata doesn't have currently and doesn't appear to be developing currently a 3D manufactured product. Any partner needing to develop that could only see Cynata as having a partial manufacturing solution and pay accordingly for only part of a manufacturing solution.