I haven't said they did a good job but I don't agree with your...

I haven't said they did a good job but I don't agree with your present sentiment that they achieved nothing, i have some confidence that they achieved compliance with strict environmental laws with the dam and that they have protected the aquifer. They also trained a raw workforce although I'm not sure what the value of that is now they have had to retrench them. You seem to have lurched from one extreme last year where they could do no wrong to now where they got everything wrong. It's a mixed bag in my opinion and important to work out the real picture because it all bears on costs and the capacity of the company to survive.