the numbers of people who died 'with' covid and those that died...

the numbers of people who died 'with' covid and those that died 'from' covid are very different but were lumped together in the early days. Fear has often been used by governments to garner certain behaviours from populations. Cetainly, young healthy people had no need to get the vaccine or be locked up in their houses for months on end. Not sure how you justify those actions by government as more and more information comes out about covid, vaccines etc etc. But anyway, as you say, this thread is about MAN as a stock and given your posts, you aren't going to change your mind and the fact you call others 'idiots' who have a different opnion, shows us all what you think of your own opinion.