so based on what you and @McKhenry are saying it takes 10 weeks from order to order parts and manufacture before it leaves the factory and at that point the invoice is raised and the order pops onto the revenue side. Based on this it means that, even at a worse case scenario of 3 months, orders received in Sept could find their way into the Dec qtrly because the orders should leave the factory before the end of Dec? If i recall correctly, there was or were some meaty orders in Sep so Dec qtr may look alright. Regardless, March qtr definitely good and June should be satisfactory as well. We wait! It was always a long game with this one. And 2-3 years since June when i went all out buying whatever people were willing to sell at that time is not a long time to wait for multiple bhags.