True, but if my timing was better I wouldn't on HC I would be on...

True, but if my timing was better I wouldn't on HC I would be on my luxury yacht. Main concern is what I can get from Hoover for them four months down the track. Hoover if you are listening I am a reasonable man, 35 cents should do it.

I think Kin Delphi stopped because they didn't need any more than 10%. No idea how deep Delphi's pockets are, but I haven't seen the bottom.