Could not agree more Steve - once there was some clarity...

Could not agree more Steve - once there was some clarity available around that Telstra announcement things do not look rosy at all. If they do pull a funding rabbit out of the hat I would imagine it will be at a hefty rate to match the inherent risks here. The one thing which we can be grateful for is that the margins are good as long as they manage to create the sales revenue to manage the scale of the costs. This really as you have said already down to management skills and they do not seem to be apparent when examining the metrics.