also in a previous post i mentioned the new zealand business where i said the original plant looked like it was shut and not operating when i was visiting christchurch and then got shot down by the 3 amigos for down ramping. 1 of the 3 amigos even asked the question of management at the recent AGM and the answer was both NZ plants are operating, this was nothing but lawyer talk as it is clear with the downturn in bussiness they were not operating as per normal, always smoke and mirrors with this lot
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