If Cisco really wanted Harvest it doesn't matter much to them...

If Cisco really wanted Harvest it doesn't matter much to them whether it is 1 or 3 billion. You have to go through a due diligence process of testing and retesting of which today's announcement is an indication that Harvest likely have something they want. These things take time.

You also have your own Board and shareholders to be satisfied.

It's very early days for Harvest but clearly they're making inroads with some big names. I go back to what Lowery said in the Podcast. He's mixed in these circles for some time. I don't think he took the decision to join Harvest lightly. He wants to be at the forefront of another great company.