well I'm not challenging the notion that mgmt have been poor and...

well I'm not challenging the notion that mgmt have been poor and the performance of the company as a whole has been poor, but ~$50m in revenues (with cash receipts to back that up) is not an easy thing to do

plenty of acquisition, plenty of integration needed, plenty of change in the macro environment and arguably factors internally and externally have had a huge impact........I just think the constant bleating about Karl is pointless so you either accept what this firm represents or you complain for another 12+ mths until they show some results or go under

am I disapointed in where things are...absolutely, but it's a tiny spec company and I've got an appropriate allocation.....anyway, good luck