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Thank you for your reply. I respect your contributions immensely too.

I'm not presenting Robert Clancy as any kind of global soothsayer. I seriously hope he's wrong but I'm worried by repeated respiratory infections in my family and other weird health problems in my VERY small circle of friends and acquaintances.

The articles I read by Clancy didn't mention ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine; they were purely about immunology. I thought he explained the gut/lung axis well. I know the gut axis to other organs is true and the lung is the most obvious one. I was banging on about this for years on this forum before it happened in two members of my family. My eldest daughter has IBD, which has never been fully in control from Infliximab, and she now needs a joint replacement. My niece has had gut issues from early childhood (only eats white food) and now has heart issues.

I don't know a great deal about either drug. I've only just started to look into them, so hopefully, I'll be able to comment more usefully when I've read the clinical trials. What got my attention was when I looked into this controversy, I found Ivermectin has a huge following. So many physicians and scientists sounded like they knew their stuff (including those I talked to online) and who came across as decent and caring human beings were saying fraud was committed to make it appear ineffective. Viral immunologist and computational biologist Dr Jessica Rose, who was given a platform by the FDA, has also analysed the trials, finding efficacy.

(The reason I thought there might be something in the allegations of fraud was that early in the pandemic, I read an article referring to a study that purported to discredit vitamin D. I view this as heinous.)

I don't know a great deal about Ivermectin, except that it did win a Nobel Prize and was initially listed as a recommended Covid therapy on the NIH website. I've mentioned one trial previously on this forum finding lack of efficacy in Covid where Pfizer had a conflict of interest. Dr. Tess Lawrie, who does analyses for the WHO, wrote a letter to Andrew HIll about his crucial paper on Ivermectin. She comes across imo as far too decent a person to have recorded him without his permission (which is why I suspect they could have come up with this together to show the depth of the corruption), but even so, I thought it best not to provide the link. She disagrees with his conclusion (that it doesn't work) and asks him how he can live with himself and he laughs cynically. I suspect it's because the data were actually there. That's just my speculation. I have yet to read it myself.

Re. hydroxychloroquine, my first introduction to this drug was when I saw a physician about my arthritis. My GP got a bit worried about prescribing a drug off-label and wanted me to have a check up. The specialist I saw knew about Minocycline and didn't have a problem with it. He said if I wasn't on that I'd be on hydroxychloroquine. He told me it was a good anti-inflammatory with an excellent safety profile. He assumed that because I'd been taking Minocycline, I'd been diagnosed with a mild case, as only mild cases were enrolled in the clinical trials. This was my earliest lesson in how the pharmaceutical industry protects its turf and a narrative can arise.

It took a whole year for the report on Remestemcel's EAP to be published. I noted that one patient had been treated with hydroxychloroquine. Having read a few papers and contacted a highly cited researcher from Mount Sinai, I formed a high opinion of them. I thought they sounded like they knew what they were doing. I couldn't help wondering if other patients had been given hydroxy and not ended up on vents.

I'm actually quite hopeful. If I wasn't, I'd have run for the hills a long time ago. I think this is a very, VERY clever wake up to ethics and morality because the rot has been going on for a long time. I don't know where MSB fits in or what part, if any, it will play. All I know is that it seems to be the exact opposite of what is going on. The fundamental reason the SP looks like something at the bottom of a fruit bowl is because of ethics.