no tryng hard to move JL from the back of the class toward the middle of the room, nonetheless it amazes me how many people still think the Chinese are somehow backward, lacking education and generally not quite making things of a high standard, bit like my TV its old always thought it was made in Japan not so Malaya , well China is much the same story ,that Volvo or Jeep and so many other manufacturers like PSA you know the great French experience Citroen, Peugeot 51% controlled by the Chinese and on it goes, even my Mum thinks China is not quite good enough------but JL may not be ignorant he could belong to a large ugly troll family, we dont really know
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